<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950</id><updated>2012-02-07T14:15:39.177+02:00</updated><category term='Homeopatie'/><category term='medicina alternativa'/><category term='reclama'/><category term='autism'/><category term='jocuri'/><category term='science-based medicine'/><category term='disonanta cognitiva'/><category term='nurofen'/><category term='Cărţi'/><category term='vaccinuri'/><category term='ayurveda'/><category term='fetus'/><category term='contraceptie'/><category term='woo-woo'/><category term='bioenergie'/><category term='statistici'/><category term='crestinism'/><category term='avort'/><category term='mercur'/><category term='parinti'/><category term='sarlatanie'/><category term='stiinta'/><category term='vegatest'/><category term='Angelic healing'/><category term='biorezonanta'/><category term='conspiratie'/><category term='Botez'/><category term='karvol'/><category term='crestini'/><category term='Andrew Wakefield'/><category term='religie'/><category term='Onan'/><category term='scepticism'/><category term='ratiune'/><category term='conspiratii'/><category term='MoRa'/><category term='Penn and Teller'/><category term='coltul cu bullshit'/><category term='ingeri'/><category term='miscarea anti-vaccin'/><category term='crestine'/><title type='text'>Părinţi Raţionali</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>66</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-3269416139588994002</id><published>2011-12-07T10:17:00.007+02:00</published><updated>2011-12-07T19:09:33.138+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Toata lumea e medic, numai medicul nu...</title><content type='html'>In general nu socializez cu mamele altor copii decat in cazuri rare. Sunt prea putine mame, iar bunicile sunt o raritate, care sa nu ajunga prin diverse metode la discutii despre impartasit, invatat copilul sa faca cruci, sa spuna rugaciuni etc. De asemenea, parca de la saptamana la saptamana se imputineaza mamele care asculta si ce rahat mananca pediatrul si dau copilului, in cazul in care situatia o cere, antibiotice sau remedii demonstrate ca fiind eficiente. Unde te intorci auzi numai de homeopate, siropele de patlagina, bagat picaturi de lamaie in nas sau injectii cu apa purificata de nu stiu unde. Si da! pentru copii de numai cateva luni. Asadar, pentru o buna protectie a sistemului meu nervos, ma feresc sa socializez cu mame sau bunici. Numai ca la o sedinta cu parintii, cand ai si de asteptat vreo 30-40 de minute, ca ai venit mai devreme, te prinzi in discutie fara sa iti dai seama cand si de ce. Cel putin asa mi s-a intamplat mie.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Subiectul: copilas de 3 anisori cu stafilococ auriu. Mama, evident cu crucioaia la gat de vreo 15 cm, dupa 10 minute de lamentari cu cat ii e de greu sa creasca 4 copii, de parca o fortase cineva sa ii faca, imprastie bomba. L-am facut bine cu argint coloidal, plante de la plafar si tratament homeopat prescris de un pseudo-medic care vine "pe la biserica". Casc ochii maaaaari, incerc sa ma abtin sa nu rad si ca sa nu par prea meschina, intreb soptit daca e sigura ca micutul avea intr-adevar infectie cu stafilococ auriu. Ea raspunde instant ca nu i-a facut analize, dar baiatul ei cel mare a avut si stie ca stafilococul asta se ia si e periculos, si cum asta e cel mai mic si mereu racit, ea a fost sigura ca l-a luat si el. A zis ca ea nu se duce sa intepe copilul fara rost, ca la 4 copii stie si singura ce are fiecare, ca-i "mama cu experienta'. M-a apucat mila instant pentru saracul copil, de altfel slab si pipernicit si mereu in garda, de parca ar fi mereu cineva in spatele lui sa ii dea una peste spinare.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;O alta mama, de profesie psiholog, ii propune diplomat doamnei imbrobodite sa isi duca copilul la medic, sa ii faca analizele si daca reiese clar ca e stafilococ sa ii dea tratamentul prescris de o persoana avizata. Si de aici se dezlantuie circul. Orice teorie a conspiratiei suna oarecum penibil din gura oricui, dar din gura unei agramate cu batic pe cap si cu dumnezei si la stanga si la dreapta era grotesc. Tot uitandu-ma cum isi dadea aere cu masonii si cu corporatiile farmaceutice care se scalda in bani am observat ca urmeaza acelasi tipar ca majoritatea spalateilor pe creier si dati cu balsam pe deasupra: vorbesc repede si baga citate si contraargumente pe care si sa vrei sa le combati, nu ai cand si cum. Ca nu te lasa. Vorbesc peste tine si oricat de pe aratura s-ar afla ei continua si continua si nu se mai opresc. E obositor numai sa ii asculti, dar sa ii contrazici...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In vreo 10 minute se face liniste, intram in clasa, ne asezam fiecare pe scaunelul lui. Madama cu broboada isi mai aduce aminte de ceva. Se intoarce spre saraca mama psiholog si ii spune de argintul asta coloidal. Chipurile distruge peste 600 de bacterii si ca era folosit cu succes inainte sa apara antibioticele si ca trateaza inclusiv SIDA. Ma manca limba, nu am putut sa tac si am zis ca sa nu mai creada ea orice aude pe la unii si altii, ca se murea pe capete si cand tineau aia cruci de argint in apa si cand foloseau miracolul asta cu argint coloidal. Acum ca are tehnologia la picioare ar trebui sa se interseze riguros ce si cum ii da copilasului si in primul rand sa ii faca anlizele sa vada despre ce e vorba, ca poate totusi metoda ei de diagnostic nu e tocmai exacta.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sa nu lungim discutia, m-a luat deoparte dupa sedinta si mi-a oferit un soi de show alternativ de o rara idiotenie. Mi-a facut o incursiune in istoricul ei medical, desi indoielnic, spunand ca ea avut cancer si s-a facut bine ascultand sfanta liturghie si tinand toate posturile, fara chimicalele doctorilor. M-am gandit ca la urmatoarea confruntare cu Jane a lui Tarzan sa o filmez, macar sa ofer si altora motiv de distractie. Cand a plecat a facut ea cu mana ei o cruce peste mine si mi-a dat o bratarica colorata cu margele si iconite care a ajuns in primul cos. In mod "oficial" sunt posedata de diavol si spalata pe creier de medicii alopati. Enjoy Romania!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Si acum despre argintul asta coloidal. Sticlutele cu panaceul asta minune sunt infiorator de scumpe, parerea mea, iar cantitatile pe eticheta nu sunt specificate, motiv pentru care mi se pare surprinzator cum Ministerul Sanatatii a putut da avizul pentru asa ceva. Mai mult, argintul e un bun antiseptic si nu un antibacterian, desi pe mai toate site-urile de prezentare e prezentat ca inlocuitor de succes al antibioticului. Nu exista studii sa ii demonstreze concret nici ineficacitate si nici eficacitatea, dar Romania e o buna piata de desfacere pentru toate bullshit-urile occidentale, asa ca poate fi cu succes achizitionat fie online, fie din farmacii. Pe langa asta, observ ca prea se da mana libera comercializarii panaceelor astora, atribuindu-li-se proprietati pe care nici nu le au si efecte care nici macar nu au putut fi dovedite, dar nespecificandu-se, spre exemplu in cazul apei cu argint coloidal, ce se poate intampla in caz de utilizare necugetata. Se specifica totusi ca-i toxic dupa o anumita cantitate, insa nu se spune si cand se depaseste acea cantitate. Evident nici nu prea-i nevoie caci atunci cand ajungi&lt;a href="http://images.google.com/search?tbm=...178l1069l0.7l7"&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://http//dermato-venerologie.ro/wordpress/archives/1227"&gt;asa &lt;/a&gt;iti cam dai seama si singur.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Constat cu surpindere, ca in timp ce in Africa, copiii mor pe capete ca nu au acces la antibiotice si ingrijre medicala corecta, astia de la noi care benficiaza, nu stiu cum sa mai faca sa le inlocuiasca cu buruieni ineficiente, scumpe, dar ambalate frumos. In minte in vine o comparatie, poate putin deplasata, dar vad aceste potiuni magice asa cum vad tabloidele. Alea pentru ca sunt pline de porcarii, daca nu ar avea 5-6 poze cu individe dezbracate si titluri colorate nu prea le-ar cumpara nimeni. Asa si cu panaceele pe care altii le-au abandonat de proaste ce sunt, noi le imbracam frumos, le prezentam in cadrul catorva emisiuni de "profil", in care dau din gura o groaza de indivizi, numai medici cu diploma nu si gata! Am gasit leacul impotriva a orice. E bun si placebo asta la ceva, insa revin si sustin cu aceeasi tarie, nu le dati copiiilor! Adult fiind, ia ce te taie capul, dar copilul ala, lasa-l sa primeasca ingrijirea medicala de care are nevoie si nu o bataie de joc. E drept ca toti, cand eram mici, ne jucam de-a doctorul, numai ca unii au uitat sa creasca!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sustin in continuare o buna informare si scoaterea in afara legii a tuturor practicilor menite mai degraba sa insele populatia decat sa o faca bine.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-3269416139588994002?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/3269416139588994002/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/12/in-general-nu-socializez-cu-mamele.html#comment-form' title='0 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/3269416139588994002'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/3269416139588994002'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/12/in-general-nu-socializez-cu-mamele.html' title='Toata lumea e medic, numai medicul nu...'/><author><name>Dada</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13457864351246955707</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Y9jhReikKcY/S7iKFwj8NoI/AAAAAAAAAAs/2naBJCKDAgI/S220/avatare_cool_avatare%2B(30).gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-7922315920809574424</id><published>2011-11-07T10:53:00.007+02:00</published><updated>2011-11-07T20:09:07.719+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Romanul, frate cu homeopatul</title><content type='html'>Am auzit si am cunoscut cazuri in care parintii si-au tratat copiii homeopat, evident fara rezultat. Ca sunt si unii care cred ca doar respirand repsectand un ritm faci cancerul sa dispara, spre exemplu, e partea a doua. Insa sambata, in necunostinta de cauza, am ajuns cu copilul intr-un cabinet de medicina crestina.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Familia mea, reunita, isterizata de situatia medicala a copilului meu si a complicatiilor aparute pe parcurs ca umare a nenumarate diagnostice gresite sau a tratamentelor date asa la gramada, fara o analiza detaliata a cazului, a considerat ca ma ajuta programandu-ma la acest "cabinet medical". Vizita aici avea sa scoata la iveala mortivul alergiilor severe de care sufera copilul meu si dupa caz, identificarea unora noi, de care noi nu aveam cunostinta pana in acel moment. Bun...cabinetul e undeva in Voluntari. Si cum se putea sa nu fie acolo?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asadar ma echipez cu copil cu tot sa ajung la cabinetul laudat si la "medicul" despre care nu auzeam decat cuvinte de genul "excelent', "capabil", "foarte bine pregatit", "peste 10 ani de experienta in domeniu". Normal ca semene de intrebare au aparut inca de la inceput. Cum se poate ca eu sa nu fi auzit de un medic atat de capabil? Cum se poate ca intre toate recomandarile medicale sa nu mi se pomeneasca de acest cabinet?&lt;br /&gt;Cabinetul in sine e situat pe o straduta in spatele unui centru de ingrijire a bolnavilor de cancer. In imediata apropiere e un butic cu produse naturiste unde se comercializeaza apa echilibrata energetic, ceai anticancer, tratamente homeopate si tincturi de plante cu denumiri pe care imi e greu sa le reproduc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;De cum intru in cabinet ma izbeste mirosul de tamaie, amestecata cu un miros intepator de chimen si alte mirodenii care ma trimiteau cu gandul mai degraba la un restaurant cu specific decat la un cabinet medical. In partea dreapta un perete ticsit de icoane, mai mari mai mici, mai vechi, mai noi...Personalul de acolo desprins parca dintr-o alta era. O asistenta cu un aer de personaj din romanele lui &lt;a href="http://http//ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_May"&gt;Karl May&lt;/a&gt;, cu un par nepieptanat si incredibil de cret si cercei cu pene colorate. Pe holuri se tot perinda un fel de infirmiera, cred, care pe langa faptul ca avea un handicap locomotor nu era in stare sa raspunda la o intrebare si se uita asa malitios la mine. Mi-am dat seama abia dupa ce am luat un loc pe canapea de ce. Eram singura persoana din incapere ce nu parea luata direct de la slujba de duminica si anume nepensata, nemachiata, cu fusta pana la pamant si imbracata in negru, maro sau gri.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Si astept...Astept...Peste vreo 45 de minute, desi in sala mai erau doar 3 copilasi, ma cheama si pe mine asistenta amerindiana sa ii faca testele copilului. Prima problema reala apare aici. Dupa ce domnisoara scoate o cutie de carton plina cu niste sticlute mici pe care scria ceva ce mi-a fost greu sa inteleg, ma intreaba daca copilul primeste vreun tratament antihistaminic. Si ii raspund afirmativ, pe motiv ca fi-mea, fara acest tratament se sufoca. Chiar si cu el tot imi face crize respiratorii destul de severe. Se stramba, se uita pe pereti si apoi imi spune ca trebuia sa nu ii dau nimic copilului daca stiam ca vin aici ca ea nu are cum sa ii mai faca toate testele. Convenim pana la urma, dupa ce ii mai trece acreala aia de pe fata sa ii facem doar testele pentru alergiile respiratorii. Recunosc ca e pentru prima oara cand ii fac astfel de teste, asadar nu stiam cum ar fi trebuit sa se efectueze un astfel de test, dar cred ca in nici un caz asa cum s-au efectuat aici.&lt;br /&gt;Asistenta ia mana copilului, cea dreapta, o sterge superficial cu spirt, ii marcheaza 4 liniute cu pixul si apoi in dreptul lor pune cate o picatura de ulei din diferite sticlute in dreptul fiecarui marcaj. Apoi ia un ac si imprastie usor uleiul pe mana intr-un spatiu mic. Si imi zice sa astept. Ma intorc la canapea. De data asta, plasma din sala de asteptare, de dimensiuni de-a dreptul nesimtite, era aprinsa. Pe ea rula la infinit un set de fragmente din emisuni cu tema medicala, fantoma, de pe canale tv din categoria OTV cu Prof. Dr. G. Mencinicopschi si alte pesonaje necunoscute printre care si un popa care avea la gat o talanga de vreo 50 de cm. Nu m-am putut abtine si am facut o gluma, pe care doar sotul meu a gustat-o, spunand ca ar trebui sa includa in categoria testelor pentru alergeni si emisunile de genul ala, ca eu sigur as iesi alergica. Toate mutrele din sala s-au uitat fix la mine cu o nota clara de dezaprobare si dezgust. Imi dau seama ca am in jurul meu niste cercopiteci asa ca ma abtin in a mai comenta ceva. Incep sa imi usurez asteptarea incercand sa citesc ceva. Pe masuta erau doar pliante cu rugaciuni si un soi de manifest pentru hrana bio. Deja creirul meu suerise primul atac vascular cerebral. Ma hotarasc sa citesc ce scrie pe pereti. Aceleasi porcarii,. Indemn la iubire, un manifest crestin foarte siropos si scris execrabil, petitie impotriva Codex Alimentarius, programe de pelerinaj la diverse manastiri, racle si locuri sfinte. Cred ca deja eram verde. Ma intorc la sotul meu si ii spun sa plecam. Nu putem, ca am venit cu interventii si "interventia" era in coasta noastra. Imi zice sa ma linistesc, sa astept sa vedem ca poate medicul asta e chiar bun chiar daca-i dus in plimbari interminabile pe coclauri.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tot asteptam si asteptam si nu se mai uita nimeni la mana copilului meu. Pana la urma intru in cabinet plina de entuziasm sa vad si eu care-i treaba cu medicul asta minunat. Pe usa cabinetului nu era scris nimic. Daca nu stiam unde trebuia sa intru puteam la fel de bine sa nimeresc si in buda, caci nu erau semne, indicatii, absolut nimic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Medicul era o ea. Ma prezint ca asa sunt eu, cu bun simt, ea nu zice nimic, ma invita sa stau pe scaun. Ma apuc sa scot documente sa ii spun problema...Ea era absenta. Asteapta sa termin si incepe: "&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Ce aveti de la spital nu e relevant. Stiti, diagnosticul nu e important, organismul e ca un intreg, daca sa strica ceva, se strica tot&lt;/span&gt;." Al doilea atac vascular cerebral...Si ea tot continua:"I-ati dat homeopate copilului?" N-apuc sa spun nu ca ea tot tutruie:"&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;stiti, homeopatia merge bine pe copii pentru ca ei sunt neintinati&lt;/span&gt;. La adulti merge mai greu pentru ca e nevoie de credinta, fara credinta si fara Dumnezeu nu putem sa ne facem bine. Vedeti dumneavostra, copilul a fost &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;complet dezechilibrat energetic &lt;/span&gt;si cu atata antibiotic i-ati adus imunitatea la 0". Iau o gura de aer si zic "Doamna, va rog, cum sa fie imunitatea 0? E imposibil, era moarta pana acum!" Si ea, cu ochii milogi se uita in sus pe tavan si raspunde" Asa e...dar vedeti, &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Dumnezeu e mare si nu lasa fiinta asta nevinovata sa piara si v-a indreptat pasii catre mine ca eu, prin puterea Lui sa va ajut sa o facem bine&lt;/span&gt;. Ea trebuie sa inceapa un proces de de-sensibilizare, care e lung, dar da rezultate nemaipomenite. Dar ca tratamentul sa mearga&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; trebuie sa renuntati la toate medicamentele &lt;/span&gt;pe care le ia acum, imediat!"...Al treilea atac vascular cerebral...raspund cu calm, desi imi venea sa o strang de gat si apoi sa ies pe usa si sa nu ma mai intoc in veci acolo. " Doamna, eu nu...pot sa fac asa ceva...ea..." Si ma opreste. Ma ia cu incursiune in tratamentul homeopat. La un moment dat urechile mele s-au blocat si o vedeam cum da din gura dar nu o mai auzeam. Asteptam sa termine sa plec. Nu ma puteam rasti la ea si nici nu puteam sa ii dau peste ochi cu aberatiile ei, pe motiv ca "pila" era cu mine si din prea mult bun simt, nu am vrut sa stric o relatie de prietenie.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mi-a revenit auzul doar in momentul cand mi-a mai facut o indicatie "terapeutica" si anume&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt; sa imi duc copilul la slujba, duminica de duminica si sa o impartasesc la fel de des si sa nu ii mai fac nici un vaccin obligatoriu si nici sa nu o mai duc la gradinita&lt;/span&gt;. Saraca fi-mea, a stat cuminte tot timpul ala, dar cred ca atunci cand a auzit de popa si biserica a inceput sa faca urat. Nu mai suporta sa stea deloc. Asta m-a salvat de un al patrulea AVC, dar nu pentru mult timp. Doamna asta "doctor", care &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;nu are parafa, nu are nume&lt;/span&gt;, nu avea nimic, doar carti pline de pseudo-orice si un stetoscop care sincer nu stiu la ce anume ii folosea, mi-a inmanat o hartie, reteta pe care trebuia sa o ridic chiar de acolo de la farmacia lor. Intr-un final ies, ma duc sa platesc consultatia. Soc! Consultatia de platea la farmacie. La farmacie nu puteai plati consultatia decat daca plateai reteta. Reteta fiica-mii facea 402 ron, consultatia 50, iar mir-ungerea aia 40. Asadar pentru 2 ore de asteptat si o ora de tortura asupra unui creier sanatos eu trebuia sa scot din buzunar aproape 500 de ron. Pentru ca acolo, la famacie, suferam cel de-al patrulea AVC, ii spun raspicat mamaicii de la farmacie ca eu nu am banii astia la mine si fie platesc consulatia ca e de bun simt sa fac asta, fie nu mai platesc nimic. In total am cheltuit 90 de ron, ca n-am scapat fara teste.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-I3-uwvI5FLg/TresB8_pMzI/AAAAAAAAADE/z0XKLSjPQns/s1600/img049.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float: right; margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; cursor: pointer; width: 245px; height: 322px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-I3-uwvI5FLg/TresB8_pMzI/AAAAAAAAADE/z0XKLSjPQns/s320/img049.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5672191405249344306" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Am pastrat "reteta" si vreau sa v-o arat si voua. Ca si nota informativa, cabinetul asta se numeste NATURALIA, il gasiti pe Erou Mircea Marinescu, nr 8.&lt;br /&gt;Ma gand&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-o034JcmseR8/TretP29kAeI/AAAAAAAAADQ/7Xwz8Mf15kM/s1600/img048.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 200px; height: 320px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-o034JcmseR8/TretP29kAeI/AAAAAAAAADQ/7Xwz8Mf15kM/s320/img048.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5672192743659799010" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;eam ca poate cineva, cumva sa faca in asa fel incat astfel de practici sa fie interzise. Macar cele care vizeaza copii. Nu consider ca exista alta solutie  decat scoaterea acestor bodegi cu pretentii de cabinete medicala in afara legii.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;N.B.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Imi cer scuze ca nu stiu sa pun poze pe blog, astept cu mare caldura sugestii.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-7922315920809574424?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/7922315920809574424/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/11/am-auzit-si-am-cunoscut-cazuri-in-care.html#comment-form' title='23 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/7922315920809574424'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/7922315920809574424'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/11/am-auzit-si-am-cunoscut-cazuri-in-care.html' title='Romanul, frate cu homeopatul'/><author><name>Dada</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13457864351246955707</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Y9jhReikKcY/S7iKFwj8NoI/AAAAAAAAAAs/2naBJCKDAgI/S220/avatare_cool_avatare%2B(30).gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-I3-uwvI5FLg/TresB8_pMzI/AAAAAAAAADE/z0XKLSjPQns/s72-c/img049.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>23</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-3272904465653534649</id><published>2011-03-12T16:38:00.001+02:00</published><updated>2011-03-12T16:38:09.509+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Atei, lipsa de etica si comunism.</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;Acest articol este inspirat de o discutie cu o doamna, doctor in filosofie, si incearca sa arate ca studiile nu vindeca prostia. Nu voi da numele acestei “&lt;em&gt;duoamne&lt;/em&gt;” pentru ca nu este important. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Discutia a pornit de la afirmatia doamnei filosof cum ca &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;blockquote&gt;   &lt;p&gt;un om fara credinta in Dumnezeu nu poate avea valori etice. Omul este creat de catre Dumnezeu. Omul fiind creatura este limitat si imperfect iar Dumnezeu care este Creatorul este perfect si infinit.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Autobiografie ateista si marxist-leninista.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Ateu fiind si totusi o persoana decenta (nu omor animale, nici nu le-am chinuit copil fiind, nu mananc bebelusi, nu ma droghez, nu fur, traiesc in pace cu vecinii, duc o viata cat se poate de normala) m-am simtit oarecum lezata de o astfel de afirmatie, venita din gura unei bune crestine si filosoafe. Cunoscand parerile maaaarelui filosof de talie interstelara Tutea, nu ar fi trebuit sa ma mir, dar totusi m-am mirat. Stiu ca sunt o proasta, am prea multa incredere in semenii mei de specie si in capacitatea lor de a discerne intre indivizi si grup.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Mirarea mea a devenit amuzament in momentul in care discutia a deviat spre politica. Imi pare rau, nu-mi pot pastra mina serioasa in momentul in care un filosof ma acuza de colaborationism pentru faptul ca am fost nascuta in 1975 si deci a trebuit sa fiu pionier. Ba am fost si utecista jumatate de an.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;OK, tata, de voie sau de nevoie a fost membru de partid si secretar intr-o fabrica, nu un mare stab, ci un oarecare printre altii. De aici a ma considera marxist leninista, colaborationista si fiica de tortionar e cale lunga. A considera ca un membru al partidului comunist nu ar putea fi in acelasi timp si crestin e o dovada de prostie. Presupun ca tata a crezut sincer si in una si in alta, nu-l pot intreba pt ca e mort. In fine, orice ar fi facut tata, asta nu ma face pe mine “marxist leninista”, nici macar nu-mi mai aduc aminte ce naiba invatam la ora de Educatie Politica, sau cum naiba ii spunea, probabil era ceva cu Ceausescu pe-ce-re. Hei, eram copii, ne durea in cur de Ceausescu si de pecereul lui. Doamna filosof insa, cuprinsa de manie cvasi proletara, ii da inainte cu acuzele. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;blockquote&gt;   &lt;p&gt;Daca tal era secretar de partid problema ra altfel. Erai printre privilegiaii regimului. Dar de ce te-a botezat? Deci voi v-ati pus bine si cu regimul comunist ateist si cu Biserica. Nu merge asa.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Ei am fost pe dracu’, hallooo nu toti cei care au facut parte din partid au avut privilegii.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;M-au botezat pentru ca ei credeau ca ma ia Dracul daca nu ma boteaza, iar “noi” nu ne-am pus bine cu nimeni, avand in vedere ca la 6 luni nu prea aveam drept de veto :D&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;blockquote&gt;   &lt;p&gt;Secretarii de partid erau cei care convocau sedinte inainte de Pasti si de Craciun si spuneau sa nu ne ducem la Biserica. Ne amenintau pe atunci ca daca ne prin ca intram in Biserica ne scat nota la purtare.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Pai cum sa nu, totusi eu nu am intalnit in 9 ani de scoala in timpul comunismului nici un secretar de partid care sa ne viziteze si sa ne spuna ceva despre religie.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;blockquote&gt;   &lt;p&gt;Chinuiau elevii, studentii si salariati in pregatori interminabili pentru mitinguri. Explicau ca Dumnezeu nu exista, ca omul de tip nou trebuie sa fie ateu.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Da, eram foarte chinuiti, puteam lipsi de la scoala si mergeam pe Bul. Aviatorilor, imbracati in costume de balet,nu am sa uit niciodata cand cat de bine m-am simtit in tutu asteptand sa vina Mobutu, si cat am ras cand a trebuit sa scandam Mobutu Sese Seko Kuku Ngbendu wa Zabanga. Apoi mergeam in Herastrau sa ne plimbam. Ingrozitor.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;blockquote&gt;   &lt;p&gt;Copii secretarilor aveau privilegii atunci. Nu mergeau la practica agricola. Familiile lor aveau acces la magazinele speciale de partid. Aveau vile speciale unde mergeau in concediu. Puteau calatori liberi in strainatate.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Normal ca nu mergeam, eram dusi cu autobuzele :D de asemenea, maturam strada in uniforma alba de pionier. Mama ce mai injura bunica mea cand veneam acasa gri. Si magazine aveam, noroc ca-l cunosteam pe unu la aprozar, pe altul la Gostat, si pe altii prin alte parti. majoritatea romanilor cunosteau pe “cineva” alte magazine speciale nu am cunoscut.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Si vile aveam, in fata blocului. Imi aduc aminte ca-mi povestea bunica&amp;#160; (nu era membra de partid ci il iubea pe Regele Mihai, un fel de Justin Bieber al tineretii ei), ca in ‘62 i-au demolat casa si i-au propus un apartament cu chirie intr-o vila in constructie. Bunica mea, de fraiera, a spus ca ea vrea in blocul gata construit din fata vilei. Asa s-a pricopsit in ‘63 cu un apartament de doua camere la etajul 2 al unui bloc de 9 etaje si cu 4 scari. O minunatie luxoasa tip cutie de chibrituri, mai mic decat un sfert din parterul casei mele. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Tatal meu, comunistul, nu a avut nici macar norocul asta, venind de la tara a avut o laie pana cand l-a luat mama “apolitica” de barbat si l-a instalat in garsoniera ei, cumparata din munca bunicii mele regaliste. Se poate spune ca l-a luat in chiloti.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Cat despre concedii, ca orice muncitor aveau concedii, pe care le-am facut in Eforie Nord in camping.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;De iesiri in strainatate, nu pot sa spun decat LOOOOL. iesirea in strainatate era egala cu o conversatie cu cehoaicele din camping.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;De ce s-au cununat religios? de ce ne-au botezat pe noi? poate ca ei chiar credeau, poate ca sa pastreze traditia. Habar nu am, dar mama crede si acum in Domnul Zeu.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;De ce a intrat tata in partid? aici chiar sunt presupuneri… un oarecare venit de la curul vacii, in Bucuresti, a vazut probabil in partid o posibilitate de a avansa in meserie. Chiar daca ca si om si tata nu a sclipit, in meseria lui a fost bun.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Ma rog, nu-i pot judeca deciziile, nu stiu daca a fost sincer sau doar un oportunist in ceea ce priveste politica. Nici macar nu conteaza, conteaza faptul ca eu nu am nici o legatura cu credintele lui, a fost un tata atat de bun incat nu prea l-am cunoscut, asa ca nu se poate spune ca m-a format decat sub apectul cum sa &lt;strong&gt;nu&lt;/strong&gt; fie un tata.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Ca sa inchei autobiografia mea ateista, marxist-leninista si lipsita de morala, declar ca ateismul meu nu are legatura cu scoala, familia, indoctrinarea comunistoida sau alte aspecte externe ale vietii mele.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Faptul ca sunt ateu este rezultatul unor intense cautari prin diverse religii, a miilor de carti citite, a faptului ca ma intreb si caut raspunsuri, si a dragostei mele pentru mitologie si literatura fantastica. Da, mitologia m-a salvat de la religie si m-a indoctrinat cu atatia zei incat cel crestin nu a mai fost interesant pentru mine.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Faptul ca sunt o persoana morala/ etica/ cu suflet (sic!) se datoreaza bunicii mele si miilor de carti citite, rumegate pe vremea cand la televizor nu exista nimic altceva decat 2 ore de pe-ce-re. De asemenea, evolutia a avut un rol important in cizelarea oamenilor ca fiinte sociale si in dezvoltarea empatiei fata de membrii propriei specii sau chiar a celorlate animale.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Din punct de vedere politic ma declar libertariana, in sensul ca statul ar trebui sa nu isi bage nasul in viata mea privata sau sa o faca cat mai putin. “Libertatea mea se termina acolo unde incepe libertatea altuia” este unul dintre putinele principii morale la care ma supun.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Gata, mi-am facut autocritica si pot sa spun ca daca aceasta “&lt;em&gt;duoamna doctor&lt;/em&gt;” reprezinta un varf al filosofiei romane, sunt extrem putin impresionata de scoala romana de filosofie, si de felul in care isi invata studentii si doctoranzii sa gandeasca. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Atatea biasuri pe metru patrat, atata lipsa de logica si un zid mai mare al disonantei cognitive nu am vazut in viata mea.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Daca acesta este crestinismul autentic, avand in vedere ca mai are si o diploma in teologie catolica, va sfatuiesc frati atei, masoni si reptilieni sa parasiti cat mai rapid “gradina maicii domnului” dragostea crestineasca fiind un eufemism pentru ura viscerala a tot ceea ce este diferit.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-3272904465653534649?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/3272904465653534649/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/03/atei-lipsa-de-etica-si-comunism.html#comment-form' title='13 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/3272904465653534649'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/3272904465653534649'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/03/atei-lipsa-de-etica-si-comunism.html' title='Atei, lipsa de etica si comunism.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-3218023825862299522</id><published>2011-03-02T19:38:00.001+02:00</published><updated>2011-03-02T19:38:27.429+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Corelatia nu implica cauzalitate nici in cazul vaccinurilor.</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;Da, stiu ca am comis o cacofonie dar putin imi pasa.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7388/800pxpiratesvstempengli.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Asa cum toti stim, temperatura globala medie a crescut in ultimii 200 de ani, cauza acestui fenomen fiind disparitia masiva a piratilor. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Nu ma credeti? chestia asa se poate usor verifica. Unde sunt cei mai multi pirati la ora actuala? in Somalia. Unde se gasesc cele mai reduse emisii de CO2? in Somalia. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.venganza.org/2008/04/somalia/"&gt;http://www.venganza.org/2008/04/somalia/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Ei acum ca ne-am distrat putem incerca sa explicam de ce corelatia nu inseamna neaparat cauzalitate (am evitat cacofonia).&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Presupunerea ca A cauzeaza B doar pentru ca A este intr-un raport de corelatie cu B este o gresala de logica si nu un argument&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;In stiinta se incearca aflarea cauzelor unui fenomen si explicarea lui folosind metoda stiintifica de care am mai vorbit. In stiinta corelatia nu inseamna automat cauzalitate.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Din punct de vedere al logic, graficul de mai sus este fals, chiar daca putem corela scaderea numarului piratilor cu tot felul de lucruri.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;In cazul vaccinurilor aceasta gresala de logica a fost folosita de atatea ori incat m-am plictisit sa o tot intalnesc si deja am discutat despre corelatia mercur si autism sau MMR si autism.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Vaccinurile sunt cauza Sindromului Mortii Subite a Sugarului (SIDS).&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Corelatia a aparut deoarece imunizarile incep la acea varsta la care se poate intampla si acest lucru nefericit adica la 2-4 luni, si multe dintre cazurile de SIDS au avul loc dupa un vaccin. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Dupa un vaccin nu inseamna din cauza unui vaccin!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Mai multe studii efectuate au aratat ca nu exista o relatie de cauzalitate intre vaccinuri si sindromul mortii subite a sugarului.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concerns/sids_faq.html"&gt;http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concerns/sids_faq.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Vaccinul impotriva gripei H1N1 provoaca avortul.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Asa aflam de pe un site conspirationist american.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://noworldsystem.com/2009/11/15/pregnant-women-miscarriage-after-h1n1-vaccine/"&gt;http://noworldsystem.com/2009/11/15/pregnant-women-miscarriage-after-h1n1-vaccine/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;De fapt numarul pierderilor de sarcina, statistic vorbind, a ramas acelasi. Ei l-au corelat cu data la care a fost gravida vaccinata si au dat vina pe vaccin.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Cele mai multe avorturi spontane au loc in primele luni de sarcina sau chiar inainte ca femeia sa afle ca este insarcinata (se numesc &lt;a href="http://www.womens-health.co.uk/miscarriage/signs.html"&gt;avorturi menstruale&lt;/a&gt;) si se stie ca aproximativ 15% dintre sarcini se termina printr-un avort spontan. In Statele Unite femeile insarcinate s-au aflat pe primele locuri in vederea vaccinarii, deci multe dintre ele se aflau in aceasta perioada critica in care natura isi corecteaza prin avort greselile.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/49017/title/Science_%2B_the_Public__H1N1_vaccine_Counting_side_effects"&gt;http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/49017/title/Science_%2B_the_Public__H1N1_vaccine_Counting_side_effects&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Nici&amp;#160; in cest caz nu a putut fi dovedita legatura directa intre avortul spontan si vaccinul primit.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Cu siguranta ca au sa se gaseasca o multime de alte corelatii intre vacinare si exploziile solare, intre vaccinuri si aparitiile tot mai dese ale OZN-urilor etc.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;Eu pe ziua de azi am terminat :D&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-3218023825862299522?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/3218023825862299522/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/03/corelatia-nu-implica-cauzalitate-nici.html#comment-form' title='0 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/3218023825862299522'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/3218023825862299522'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/03/corelatia-nu-implica-cauzalitate-nici.html' title='Corelatia nu implica cauzalitate nici in cazul vaccinurilor.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-7401881299740531365</id><published>2011-03-02T14:32:00.003+02:00</published><updated>2011-03-02T15:36:49.670+02:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='science-based medicine'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Penn and Teller'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='conspiratie'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='miscarea anti-vaccin'/><title type='text'>Vaccinurile: navigand printre biasuri si disonanta cognitiva V</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;OK, m-am jucat putin, ne-am distrat pe seama celor ce iau de bun tot ceea ce citesc pe internet, am ras de conspirationisti, dar gata; ne intoarcem la problema serioasa a celor care ar sacrifica sanatatea copiilor lor si chiar a copiilor altora doar pentru ca ideile conspirationiste sunt mai frumos impacherate decat aridele pagini stiintifice.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Este mult mai usor sa consideram anticorpii niste “priculici negativi”, care exista numai in teorie, asa cum declara autoarea blogului amintit la inceput, &lt;a href="http://www.cristelageorgescu.ro/?p=1337#more-1337" target="_blank"&gt;Cristela Georgescu&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Teoria anticorpilor &lt;/strong&gt;presupune ca la un nou contact cu agresorul, anticorpii deja existenti, produsi in urma vaccinarii, vor ataca acel invadator strain, impiedicand producerea bolii.&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;In realitate lucrurile nu sunt atat de simple. &lt;strong&gt;Rezistenta la boli (imunitatea)&lt;/strong&gt; este data de o multitudine de factori care impreuna definesc starea generala de sanatate a acelei persoane. Rezistenta la boli este garantata de fapt de o stare foarte buna de sanatate a persoanei respective, nu de ceea ce vine print-un ac.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Pe Doamna Georgescu o invit sa-si puna la incercare teoria cu priculicii anticorpieni in lupta cu &lt;a href="http://www.who.int/csr/disease/ebola/en/index.html" target="_blank"&gt;EBOLA – Febra Hemoragica&lt;/a&gt; adica. Dar hai sa nu fiu rautacioasa, nu o timit la lupta cu un virus a carui mortalitate ajunge la 90% ar ajunge si o injectie facuta cu un “ac bolnav” de Hepatita . Pentru mine ar fi suficient daca si-ar demonstra teoria in lupta cu un caine bolnav de turbare si daca ar refuza vaccinul antirabic pe motive de “stare buna de sanatate”.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/"&gt;http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;De fapt “teoria anticorpilor” functioneaza la fel de bine ca si teoria gravitatiei, chiar daca noua ne-ar placea ideea “&lt;a href="http://www.theonion.com/articles/evangelical-scientists-refute-gravity-with-new-int,1778/" target="_blank"&gt;caderii inteligente&lt;/a&gt;”. In stiinta nu conteaza ce anume preferam noi.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Un exemplu clasic si usor de inteles, care dovedeste existenta acestor acestor “anticorpi teoretici” ne este dat de RH. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Factorul Rhesus este un antigen ce se gaseste in sangele unor oameni si care pune probleme de compatibilitate in cazul unei transfuzii sau a unei sarcini.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In momentul in care o femeie cu RH negativ este insarcinata cu un copil cu RH pozitiv, este foarte probabil ca eritrocite (alte fiinte fantastice) ale fatului sa treaca bariera placentara si sa ajunga in sangele mamei, lucru ce va duce la aparitia anticorpilor. Mama este practic vaccinata impotriva RH pozitiv al fatului ceea ce duce la nasterea unui copil cu o &lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK2266/" target="_blank"&gt;boala hemolitica&lt;/a&gt; sau &lt;a href="http://www.umm.edu/ency/article/001298.htm" target="_blank"&gt;erythroblastosis fetalis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Problema apare mai pregnant la o a doua sarcina sau daca mama a suferit un avort (ptiu drace!)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;During pregnancy, some of the mother's antibodies are transported across the placenta and enter the fetal circulation. This is necessary because by the time of birth, newborns have only a primitive immune system, and the continuing presence of maternal antibodies helps ensure that they survive while their immune system matures. A downside to this protection is that by targeting fetal RBCs, maternal antibodies can also cause HDN.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A major cause of HDN is an incompatibility of the Rh blood group between the mother and fetus. Most commonly, hemolytic disease is triggered by the D antigen, although other Rh antigens, such as c, C, E, and e, can also cause problems.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hei, tocmai am demonstrat ca prin sangele nostru circula aceste animalute invizibile despre care tot vorbesc imunologii. Ba chiar exista si o metoda de a preveni aceste efecte nedorite, un fel de vaccin impotriva acestor anticorpi.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Usually, Rh D-negative mothers receive on injection of anti-D Ig at about 28 weeks gestation, which is about the time when fetal RBCs start to express the D antigen, and mothers receive another dose at about 34 weeks, a few weeks before labor begins during which the risk of fetomaternal hemorrhage is high. A final dose of anti-D Ig is given after the baby has been delivered. In addition, anti-D Ig is given to cover other events during the pregnancy that may lead to sensitization, e.g., antepartum bleeds and pre-eclampsia.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mai multe informatii gasiti si aici:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.umm.edu/ency/article/001600.htm" target="_blank"&gt;Rh Incompatibility&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Aloooo! se aude? Pavel Chirila, cel cu “&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Meditatie-Medicina-Biblica-Pavel-Chirila/dp/9739509800" target="_blank"&gt;medicina biblica&lt;/a&gt;”, da sfaturi cu privire la imunologie? este logic faptul ca pt. dumnealui anticorpii nu exista, in Biblie nu scrie nimic despre anticorpi, in schimb scrie ca oile pot fi modificate genetic prin adaugarea de nuiele in apa.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Conteaza ceea ce spun 99,99% dintre imunologi? normal ca nu. Conteaza numai faptul ca Pavel Chirila e drept credincios, pro homeopatie, detoxifiere si medicina naturista, dar mai ales faptul ca intareste prin ceea ce zice propiile biasuri.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Un lucru deloc nou, descoperit pe pagina &lt;a href="http://www.cristelageorgescu.ro/?p=1351" target="_blank"&gt;Cristelei Georgescu&lt;/a&gt; este faptul ca cei din liga anti vaccin au pornit de la necunoastere si s-au oprit la o si mai mare neintelegere a modului in care functioneaza vaccinurile.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Pentru mine, cea mai zguduitoare informatie a fost aceea ca &lt;strong&gt;vaccinurile nu protejeaza 100% impotriva unei boli si ca ele ofera imunitate doar temporar sau partial&lt;/strong&gt;. Eram convinsa fix de revers. Mai exact credeam ca prin vaccinare te expui unor potentiale riscuri, dar obtii in schimb o imunizare 100%.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nimeni nu a sustinut ca un vaccin ar proteja in procent de 100%, nimeni nu a sustinut ca un vaccin ar fi la fel de inofensiv ca un sarut pe fruntea unui bebelus. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.immunizationinfo.org/parents/why-immunize"&gt;http://www.immunizationinfo.org/parents/why-immunize&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ceea ce sustin specialistii este faptul ca vaccinarea protejaza majoritatea oamenilor, intr-o proportie satisfacatoare, asa incat balanta intre riscuri si beneficii este clar inlinata spre necesitatea vaccinarii. Asa cum am spus la inceputul acestei serii de articole, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance" target="_blank"&gt;disonanta cognitiva&lt;/a&gt; ii face pe acesti oameni incapabili sa proceseze corect informatia care ar veni in contradictie cu parerile deja formate. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Vaccinurile sunt rele, medicamentele sunt otravuri, medicii conspira impotriva sanatatii noastre, intreaga lume stiintifica face parte din conspiratia reptiliano- masonica ce are ca singur scop. Scop… SCOP? De fapt care este scopul acestei cospiratii mondiale? a da, mi-am adus aminte- micsorarea populatiei planetei! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Pe langa marele specialist si datator de pareri - Pavel Chirila, mai descoperim si alte cateva nume care NU trebuie sa lipseasca pe nici o pagina a unui proponent anti vaccin. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Unul dintre acestia este germanul Gerhard Buchwald, medic ce a speriat mapamondul cu cartea lui &lt;a href="http://www.esowatch.com/ge/index.php?title=Gerhard_Buchwald" target="_blank"&gt;Impfen, das Geschäft mit der Angst&lt;/a&gt; si care sustine ca printr-o mai buna igiena nu am avea nevoie de vaccinuri. Eu il invit si pe dumnealui sa dea labuta cu un caine bolnav de rabie, iar apoi sa se spele pe maini pentru a preveni turbarea. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Si Dl. Buchwald, ca si alti anti vaccinisti, sustine ca nu exista nici o dovada a existentei anticorpilor produsi dupa o vaccinare, probabil ca cei de la Oxford fac parte din conspiratia mondiala, pentru ca ei au gasit dovezi si pentru faptul ca in timp unele vaccinuri isi pierd din eficienta, sau ca eficienta unor vaccinuri este mai mica sau mai mare in corelatie cu varsta celui vaccinat.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/47/3/401.full"&gt;http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/47/3/401.full&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Poate de asta s-au inventat asa numitele “&lt;a href="http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=20418" target="_blank"&gt;booster shots&lt;/a&gt;” sau rapelurile cum li se spune in romana.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Normal ca nu putea lipsi nici &lt;a href="http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=10725"&gt;International Medical Council on Vaccination&lt;/a&gt; din pledoaria anti vaccin. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Science-Based Medicine isi pune exact aceeasi intrebare ca si mine. Oare de ce 99,99% dintre medici nu sunt de acord cu cei 83 de semnatari ai scrisorii deschise numita &lt;a href="http://www.naturalnews.com/031173_vaccines_science.html"&gt;Vaccines: Get the Full Story Doctors, Nurses and Scientists on Protecting Your Child and Yourself&lt;/a&gt; ? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Aricolul celor de pe pagina Science-Based Medicine este mult mai bun decat tot ce as putea eu scrie, asa ca-l recomand in original.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=10725"&gt;http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=10725&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Asa cum spun cei de la Penn and Teller “Anti Vaccination is BULLSHIT”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; DISPLAY: inline; FLOAT: none; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id="scid:5737277B-5D6D-4f48-ABFC-DD9C333F4C5D:57019f12-4013-468a-aff2-3dc9c9fc0ec9" class="wlWriterEditableSmartContent"&gt;&lt;div style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; 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MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; DISPLAY: inline; FLOAT: none; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id="scid:5737277B-5D6D-4f48-ABFC-DD9C333F4C5D:9701f7d2-1829-413f-a635-7070f906d824" class="wlWriterEditableSmartContent"&gt;&lt;div style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; DISPLAY: inline; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id="d298de7b-ab8c-4565-ad51-18f5067fb7e1"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaKRa9F0qck" target="_new"&gt;&lt;img style="BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none; BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; BORDER-TOP-STYLE: none; BORDER-LEFT-STYLE: none" alt="" src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/TW447EflfBI/AAAAAAAAACM/PmYmWdDs5bw/videod2aef6a7a73b%5B3%5D.jpg?imgmax=800" width="'\" onload="var downlevelDiv = document.getElementById('d298de7b-ab8c-4565-ad51-18f5067fb7e1'); downlevelDiv.innerHTML = &amp;quot;&amp;lt;div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;object width=\&amp;quot;369\&amp;quot; height=\&amp;quot;309\&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;param name=\&amp;quot;movie\&amp;quot; value=\&amp;quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/HaKRa9F0qck&amp;amp;hl=en\&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;\/param&amp;gt;&amp;lt;embed src=" height="'\" galleryimg="no" hl="'en\" type="'\" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Cu siguranta Penn and Teller fac parte din aceeasi conspiratie ca mine!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In urmatorul articol am sa vorbesc despre corelatie si cauzalitate.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-7401881299740531365?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/7401881299740531365/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/03/vaccinurile-navigand-printre-biasuri-si.html#comment-form' title='0 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/7401881299740531365'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/7401881299740531365'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/03/vaccinurile-navigand-printre-biasuri-si.html' title='Vaccinurile: navigand printre biasuri si disonanta cognitiva V'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/TW443iW111I/AAAAAAAAACE/-A2RnXvRm00/s72-c/video0ce55ddfefa5%5B3%5D.jpg?imgmax=800' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-2091612958491217461</id><published>2011-02-28T09:00:00.002+02:00</published><updated>2011-02-28T10:18:29.364+02:00</updated><title type='text'>DHMO- Ucigasul din pahar.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Astazi am sa vorbesc despre o substanta extrem de periculoasa si care este responsabila de nenumarate decese in fiecare an, Thimerosalul, Aluminiul si Formaldehida din vaccinuri, in comparatie cu monoxidul de dihidrogen, fiind niste copii nevinovati.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;DHMO (dihidrogen monoxid, monoxid de dihidrogen sau acidul hidroxil) nu este numai o substanta toxica, dar ne mai este si bagata pe gat de catre industie si chiar de catre medici.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;DHMO a ajuns sa fie prezent in toate raurile, lacurile, marile si oceanele planetei si chiar si in apa de la robinet exista in cantitati impresionante.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.dhmo.org/environment.html"&gt;http://www.dhmo.org/environment.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/17/17001/1.html"&gt;http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/17/17001/1.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;DHMO corodeaza metalul si erodeaza cele mai rezistente roci.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://cache.virtualtourist.com/917805-Things_To_Do-Maria_la_Gorda.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://cache.virtualtourist.com/917805-Things_To_Do-Maria_la_Gorda.jpg" border="0" alt="" style="display: block; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: auto; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: auto; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 350px; height: 200px; " /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pixel-photo.de/photos/rost.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.pixel-photo.de/photos/rost.jpg" border="0" alt="" style="display: block; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: auto; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: auto; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 350px; height: 200px; " /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;DHMO este folosit in industrie si chiar si in centrale atomice, iar apoi apele reziduale il trasporta in raurile noastre. Au fost descoperite cantitati mari si in Antarctica. Pana si ploile acide il contin in proportie covarsitoare.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.rst2.edu/ties/acidrain/miscgraphics/Acid_Rain.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 366px; height: 473px;" src="http://www.rst2.edu/ties/acidrain/miscgraphics/Acid_Rain.gif" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Se pare ca este o substanta cancerigena, deoarece a fost gasit in tumori in cantitati mai mici sau mai mari. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Mii de oameni mor anual din cauza expunerii la acest ucigas tacut. Numai in 2004, in Indonezia, Tailanda si Malaezia, au murit peste 200000 de persoane din cauza masivelor acumulari ale acestei substante si nici in alte regiuni ale lumii nu au lipsit victimele.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Chiar daca in cele mai multe parti ale lumii deversarea reziduurilor industriale este strict reglementata, marile concerne continua sa ne otraveasa pompand in rauri cantitati uriase de dihidrogen monoxid.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Hei, am un prieten acvarist care mi-a spus ca a descoperit aceasta substanta pana si in acvariul lui, pe care il curata saptamanal si in care are o multime de filtre. Acest acid trece prin sistemele de filtrare!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Cu siguranta exista si in vaccinuri si am auzit de persoane adulte care s-au intoxicat!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/6263029.stm"&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/6263029.stm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Este deosebit de grav faptul ca medicii, inclusiv cei din medicina alternativa si homeopatie, il folosesc si ni-l recomanda. De asemenea, incercati sa verificati fiecare afirmatie si o sa observati ca ceea ce am spus eu aici este numai o mica parte a pericolelor acestui acid. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Retineti! in homeopatie DHMO este de fapt ingredientul de baza.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sciscoop.com/2003-4-1-53527-97853.html"&gt;http://www.sciscoop.com/2003-4-1-53527-97853.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Nu va lasati pacaliti, nu va lasati otraviti, feriti copiii de aceasta substanta, mai ales la mare, unde cantitatile sunt uriase.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19926752.800-feedback.html"&gt;http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19926752.800-feedback.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Trebuie sa luam atitudine!&lt;/b&gt; sa facem o petitie  prin care sa cerem interzicerea lui, iar EU sau Guvernul ar trebui sa se asigure ca dispare din produsele pe care le consumam, sau macar&lt;b&gt; sa dispara din alimentatia copiilor- micile noastre minuni!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nu ezitati sa va alaturati &lt;a href="http://www.dhmo.org/"&gt;Coalitiei pentru interzicerea Dihidrogenului Monoxid&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Sanatatea copiilor nostrii este mai importanta decat posibilele reactii negative ale marilor concerne industriale sau ale guvernelor corupte! &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Apoi, incercati sa va folositi si de gandirea critica si sa reevaluati datele in spiritul ei.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.dhmo.org/presskit/clippings/NewsJournal73005.html"&gt;http://www.dhmo.org/presskit/clippings/NewsJournal73005.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-2091612958491217461?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/2091612958491217461/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/02/dhmo-ucigasul-din-pahar.html#comment-form' title='12 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/2091612958491217461'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/2091612958491217461'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/02/dhmo-ucigasul-din-pahar.html' title='DHMO- Ucigasul din pahar.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>12</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-4571745470715783508</id><published>2011-02-26T13:44:00.009+02:00</published><updated>2011-02-27T21:53:37.306+02:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='stiinta'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='statistici'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='conspiratie'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='vaccinuri'/><title type='text'>Vaccinurile: navigand printre biasuri si disonanta cognitiva IV.</title><content type='html'>Astazi am sa discut despre cateva dintre parerile preconcepute ce apar pe siturile anti-vaccin, altele decat "otravurile" despre care am discutat in articolul precedent.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Una dintre aceste idei este &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;"suprasolicitarea sistemului imunitar fragil al copilului"&lt;/span&gt; prin folosirea vaccinurilor combinate gen DTP sau ROR sau prin faptul ca programul de vaccinare este prea incarcat si ca se fac prea multe vaccinuri intr-un interval scurt de timp.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In primul rand se porneste de la ideea gresita cum ca un copil ar fi ceva extrem de fragil, in fapt din momentul nasterii, copilul este supus atacului unei multitudini de antigeni. De fiecare data cand este alaptat i se introduc in sistem bacterii si virusi. De fiacare data cand respira, introduce in organism o multitudine de virusi, bacterii, fungi, particule de praf, polen si tot felul de alergeni. Un deget bagat in gura, dupa ce atins covorul, masa sau o jucarie introduce in sistem mai multi microbi decat o doza de vaccin.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14753385"&gt;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14753385 &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://journals.lww.com/pidj/Abstract/2001/11001/Safety_of_combination_vaccines__perception_versus.7.aspx"&gt;http://journals.lww.com/pidj/Abstract/2001/11001/Safety_of_combination_vaccines__perception_versus.7.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Ideea administrarii mai multor vaccinuri o data vine din practica medicala si se bazeaza pe logica. Mai multe vaccinuri adminstrate simultan inseamna o singura intepatura si o singura vizita la medic, acel loc in care nu ne ducem numai pentru vaccinari ci si pentru ca suntem bolnavi. Da, salile de asteptare sunt adevarate autostrazi, locuri in care se intalnesc o multitudine de tulpini virale sau infectii bacteriene.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/109/1/124?ijkey=3b9ad690f94cc45c1f458e3e3dead03216319ea8&amp;amp;keytype2=tf_ipsecsha"&gt;http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/109/1/124?ijkey=3b9ad690f94cc45c1f458e3e3dead03216319ea8&amp;amp;keytype2=tf_ipsecsha &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;British Medical Journal are un articol interesant despre vaccinurile combinate, in care se spune&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;This is an important advance and generally well received in the United Kingdom, although some parent “advocacy” groups have expressed concern that this combined vaccine could overload the immune system. This is based on two misconceptions. One is that the immune system has a limited and relatively small capacity that is pushed to the limits by multiple vaccines. The other is that the increase in the number of diseases being protected against means an increase in the number of antigens. This vaccine has far fewer antigens than the DTwP/Hib it replaces. Because of the change from whole cell to acellular pertussis, a reduction of almost 3000 antigens has occurred,10 even though the vaccine protects against five instead of four diseases.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bmj.com/content/329/7463/411.full"&gt;http://www.bmj.com/content/329/7463/411.full&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pentru a citi intregul articol trebuie sa va inregistrati pe situl &lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/www.bmj.com"&gt;www.bmj.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/www.bmj.com"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;O a doua parere preconceputa despre vaccinuri este cea a &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;"bolilor disparute pentru care nu mai este necesar vaccinul".&lt;/span&gt; In aceasta categorie ar intra, dupa parerea lor, Poliomielita si Difteria.&lt;br /&gt;Imi pare rau sa le distrug visele, dar trebuie sa le reamintesc faptul ca atat polio cat si difteria sunt cat se poate de prezente, chiar daca nu in Europa sau America de Nord sau in alte zone "civilizate". Un virus poate fi usor importat, cu avionul, iar fara imunizare epidemiile ar aparea iarasi. Mai este mult de lucru pana la disparitia acestor boli.&lt;br /&gt;Trebuie sa ne amintim si faptul ca fiecare persoana vaccinata, mareste siguranta "in turma" in care se gasesc si cei care din varii motive nu pot fi vaccinati.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;O a treia idee este aceea &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;"bolile ar fi inceput sa dispara inaintea programelor de vaccinare, din cauza unei igiene sau alimentatii mai bune"&lt;/span&gt;. Prin aceasta afirmatie se incearca introducerea ideii cum ca vaccinurile ar fi inutile.&lt;br /&gt;Este foarte adevarat ca o persoana care are acces la igiena, hrana si asistenta medicala adecvate este intr-o stare de sanatate mai buna decat cineva malnutrit, murdar si fara acces la medicina moderna.&lt;br /&gt;Pe de alta parte se poate usor observa, in grafice, faptul ca reducerea incidentei unor boli are legatura cu vaccinarea si nu este legata de conditiile sociale.&lt;br /&gt;Putem observa cum incidenta meningitei indusa de &lt;a href="http://www.dhpe.org/infect/hib.html"&gt;Haemophilius influenzae tip B&lt;/a&gt; (Hib), bacterie pentru care exista un vaccin introdus in programele nationale ale mai multor tari civilizate, a scazut din momentul aparitiei vaccinului in anii '80.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8417239"&gt;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8417239 &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.who.int/immunization_monitoring/diseases/Hib/en/index.html"&gt;http://www.who.int/immunization_monitoring/diseases/Hib/en/index.html &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC100154/"&gt;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC100154/ &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In acest document se afla datele din "era prevaccinare" anti Hib.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://whqlibdoc.who.int/hq/2002/WHO_V&amp;amp;B_02.18.pdf"&gt;http://whqlibdoc.who.int/hq/2002/WHO_V&amp;amp;B_02.18.pdf &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;BACKGROUND&lt;br /&gt;Before the introduction of the conjugate vaccines, Haemophilus influenzae type b was the major cause of bacterial meningitis in the United States, and meningitis was primarily a disease of infants and young children. We describe the epidemiologic features of bacterial meningitis five years after the H. influenzae type b conjugate vaccines were licensed for routine immunization of infants.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;METHODS&lt;br /&gt;Data were collected from active, population-based surveillance for culture-confirmed meningitis and other invasive bacterial disease during 1995 in laboratories serving all the acute care hospitals in 22 counties of four states (total population, more than 10 million). The rates were compared with those for 1986 obtained by similar surveillance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;RESULTS&lt;br /&gt;On the basis of 248 cases of bacterial meningitis in the surveillance areas, the rates of meningitis (per 100,000) for the major pathogens in 1995 were Streptococcus pneumoniae, 1.1; Neisseria meningitidis,0.6; group B streptococcus, 0.3; Listeria monocytogenes, 0.2; and H. influenzae, 0.2. Group B streptococcus was the predominant pathogen among newborns, N. meningitidis among children 2 to 18 years old, and S. pneumoniae among adults. Pneumococcal meningitis had the highest case fatality rate (21 percent) and in 36 percent of cases was caused by organisms that were not susceptible to penicillin. From these data, we estimate that 5755 cases of bacterial meningitis were caused by these five pathogens in the United States in 1995, as compared with 12,920 cases in 1986, a reduction of 55 percent. The median age of persons with bacterial meningitis increased greatly, from 15 months in 1986 to 25 years in 1995, largely as a result of a 94 percent reduction in the number of cases of H. influenzae meningitis.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;CONCLUSIONS&lt;br /&gt;Because of the vaccine-related decline in meningitis due to H. influenzae type b, bacterial meningitis in the United States is now a disease predominantly of adults rather than of infants and young children.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199710023371404?hits=10&amp;amp;andorexactfulltext=and&amp;amp;FIRSTINDEX=600&amp;amp;FIRSTINDEX=600&amp;amp;SEARCHID=1&amp;amp;searchid=1&amp;amp;COLLECTION_NUM=5&amp;amp;resourcetype=HWCIT&amp;amp;resourcetype=HWCIT&amp;amp;andorexacttitleabs=and&amp;amp;"&gt;http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199710023371404?hits=10&amp;amp;andorexactfulltext=and&amp;amp;FIRSTINDEX=600&amp;amp;FIRSTINDEX=600&amp;amp;SEARCHID=1&amp;amp;searchid=1&amp;amp;COLLECTION_NUM=5&amp;amp;resourcetype=HWCIT&amp;amp;resourcetype=HWCIT&amp;amp;andorexacttitleabs=and&amp;amp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nici una dintre bolile pentru care sunt produse vaccinuri nu dispare de la sine, toate sunt boli infectioase iar unele sunt boli contagioase.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;O alta parere preconceputa sustine ca &lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;"majoritatea celor bolnavi erau vaccinati impotriva bolii respective"&lt;/span&gt;. Hai sa vedem procentele, stiind ca vaccinurile nu ofera siguranta 100% si ca o data cu trecerea timpului ar trebui facute mai multe rapeluri pentru a innoi efectul imunizarii.&lt;br /&gt;Sa incercam sa intelegem logic de ce se intampla asta.&lt;br /&gt;CDC explica:&lt;br /&gt;Cele mai multe vaccinuri sunt eficiente in 85- 95% din cazuri.&lt;br /&gt;Din cauze specifice, anumiti indivizi nu vor dezvolta imunitate.&lt;br /&gt;Majoritatea oamenilor sunt imunizati.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ca un exeplu, ne putem imagina ca intr-un liceu cu 1000 de elevi nici unul nu a avut pojar iar 5 elevi nu sunt vaccinati impotriva pojarului. 995 elevi au fost vaccinati corect (in 2 doze). Tot liceul este expus virusului, si toti elevii pot fi infectati.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Toti cei 5 elevi nevaccinati vor fi infectati si vor face boala. 100%&lt;br /&gt;Dintre cei 995 elevi vaccinati cativa nu au dezvoltat imunitate. Stiindu-se ca ROR are o eficienta de pana la 99% in cazul administrarii corecte, sa ne imaginam ca 7 elevi dintre cei vaccinati se vor imbolnavi de pojar, si deci se poate spune ca 58% dintre cazurile de imbolnaviri in acel liceu au fost persoane vaccinate. Relevant este, insa, cat la suta din totalul elevilor vaccinati s-au imbolnavit si nu aceasta comparatie, avand in vedere ca cei vaccinati erau majoritari.&lt;br /&gt;Este foarte adevarat ca 7 e mai mare decat 5, la fel de adevarat este ca 100% e mai mult decat 1%.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/6mishome.htm#Themajorityofpeople"&gt;http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/6mishome.htm#Themajorityofpeople &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/6mishome.htm#Themajorityofpeople"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cea mai raspandita idee preconceputa este ca cum ca &lt;b&gt;"vaccinurile au o multime de reactii adverse grave, pot duce la imbolnaviri sau chiar deces, si ca nu stim ce efecte vor aparea pe termen lung"&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Tot CDC ne ofera o lista de boli si complicatiile lor precum si cu vaccinurile si efectele lor secundare.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rujeola si Rubeola vs. ROR&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Un singur caz de encefalita sau reactie alergica severa nu justifica ideea ca vaccinul ROR ar fi inutil sau periculos. Fara vaccinare ar exista mai multe cazuri de imbolnaviri, mai multe complicatii si mai multe decese. Nu este deajuns sa privim riscurile, trebuie avute in vedere si beneficiile vaccinarii copiilor.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;table width="100%" border="1" bordercolor="#000000" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"&gt;  &lt;colgroup&gt;&lt;col width="64*"&gt;  &lt;col width="64*"&gt;  &lt;col width="64*"&gt;  &lt;col width="64*"&gt;  &lt;/colgroup&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr valign="TOP"&gt;   &lt;td width="25%"&gt;    &lt;p&gt;Boala&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td width="25%"&gt;    &lt;p&gt;Complicatii&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td width="25%"&gt;    &lt;p&gt;Vaccin&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td width="25%"&gt;    &lt;p&gt;Reactii Adverse&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;  &lt;tr valign="TOP"&gt;   &lt;td width="25%"&gt;    &lt;p align="LEFT" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rujeola    (Pojar)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;     &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td width="25%"&gt;    &lt;p align="LEFT" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;Pneumonie:    6 in 100&lt;br /&gt;Encefalita: 1 in 1,000&lt;br /&gt;deces: 2 in 1,000&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;       &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td rowspan="2" colspan="2" width="50%"&gt;    &lt;p align="LEFT" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Vaccin    ROR&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;     &lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p align="LEFT" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;Encefalita    sau reactii alergice severe: 1 in 1,000,000&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;       &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;  &lt;tr valign="TOP"&gt;   &lt;td width="25%"&gt;    &lt;p align="LEFT" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rubeola    (Pojarel)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;     &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td width="25%"&gt;    &lt;p align="LEFT" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;Rubeola    congenitala: 1 in 4 (daca gravida e infectata in primele luni de    sarcina))&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;     &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Difterie, Tetanos si Pertussis vs. DTap &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;table width="100%" border="1" bordercolor="#000000" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"&gt;  &lt;colgroup&gt;&lt;col width="64*"&gt;  &lt;col width="64*"&gt;  &lt;col width="128*"&gt;  &lt;/colgroup&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr valign="TOP"&gt;   &lt;td width="25%"&gt;    &lt;p align="LEFT" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Difterie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;       &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td width="25%"&gt;    &lt;p align="LEFT" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;Deces:    1 in 20&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;     &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td rowspan="3" width="50%"&gt;    &lt;p align="LEFT" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Vaccin    DTaP&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;     &lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p align="LEFT" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;-    Plans continuu urmat de recuperare totala: 1 in 1000&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;       &lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p align="LEFT" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;-    Convulsii sau soc, urmate de recuperare totala: 1 in 14,000&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;       &lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p align="LEFT" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;-    Encefalopatie acuta: 0-10.5 in 1,000,000&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;       &lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p align="LEFT" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;-    Deces: Nici unul dovedit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;     &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;  &lt;tr valign="TOP"&gt;   &lt;td width="25%"&gt;    &lt;p align="LEFT" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Tetanos&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;       &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td width="25%"&gt;    &lt;p align="LEFT" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;Deces:    2 in 10&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;     &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;  &lt;tr valign="TOP"&gt;   &lt;td width="25%"&gt;    &lt;p align="LEFT" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Pertussis&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;       &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td width="25%"&gt;    &lt;p align="LEFT" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;Pneumonie:    1 in 8&lt;br /&gt;Encefalita: 1 in 20&lt;br /&gt;Deces: 1 in 1,500&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;       &lt;/p&gt;   &lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/6mishome.htm#Vaccinescause"&gt;http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/6mishome.htm#Vaccinescause&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asa este usor de observat faptul ca vaccinarea este mai putin periculoasa decat boala pe care o previne si ca, statistic vorbind, este mai probabil sa apara complicatii grave in cazul imbolnavirii decat reatii adverse grave in cazul vaccinarii.&lt;br /&gt;O usoara rosata, umflatura, iritatie, durere, febra sunt reactii adverse normale, care nu trebuie sa sperie pe nimeni.&lt;br /&gt;Trebuie sa privim riscurile in comparatie cu beneficiile de fiecare data cand luam o decizie, chiar si in cazul in care decizia este de a iesi sau nu in parc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Va urma.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-4571745470715783508?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/4571745470715783508/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/02/navigand-printre-biasuri-si-disonanta_26.html#comment-form' title='2 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/4571745470715783508'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/4571745470715783508'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/02/navigand-printre-biasuri-si-disonanta_26.html' title='Vaccinurile: navigand printre biasuri si disonanta cognitiva IV.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-2166537465839884429</id><published>2011-02-25T19:28:00.008+02:00</published><updated>2011-03-01T12:13:51.054+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Vaccinurile: navigand printre biasuri si disonanta cognitiva III.</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Miscarile anti-vaccin incearca sa ne convinga de faptul ca vaccinurile sunt substante periculoase, toxice si ca pun in pericol viata copiilor nostrii. De asemenea, persoanele respective sustin ca in spatele programelor de vaccinare stau, in umbra, conspiratii menite sa reduca populatia planetei. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Principalul vinovat ar fi ceea ce ei numesc "Big Farma", marii producatori de medicamente, un cartel ce exista doar pentru a castiga bani din otravirea populatiei cu medicamente si vaccinuri. Ce ma amuza cel mai tare este faptul ca "Big Farma" incearca de un secol sa ne extermine, dar populatia este in continua crestere. Nu sunt foarte eficienti in planul lor diabolic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Hai sa vedem cat de adevarate sunt aceste acuze. Sa vedem ce anume contin vaccinurile si cat de periculoase sunt acele substante.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Atentie, aceste substante au fost folosite inca de la inceputul secolului trecut, in cantitati mult mai mari decat in prezent. Asa cum am spus, in timp, vaccinurile au devenit din ce in ce mai sigure.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Thimerosalul &lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;este un prezervant pe baza de mercur ve a fost introdus in unele vaccinuri inca din anul 1930.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/safetyavailability/vaccinesafety/ucm096228.htm"&gt;http://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/safetyavailability/vaccinesafety/ucm096228.htm&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;El este metabolizat si se descompune in etilmercur si tiosalicilat.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Ca sa intelegem ce este etilmercurul va ofer o analogie amuzanta, fara sa aiba pretentia de adevar absolut.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Although the names may sound the same, methylmercury and ethylmercury are very different. An analogy is the difference between methyl alcohol and ethyl alcohol: Methyl alcohol is antifreeze, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;and ethyl alcohol is a Bud light.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Dr. Ari Brown, pediatrician and author of popular books for parents about infant and child health and development.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;De la inceputurile folosirii lui, Thimerosalul s-a dovedit a fi sigur si eficient in prevenirea contaminarii vaccinurilor cu bacterii sau fungi, reactiile lui adverse fiind iritatii usoare in locul intepaturii.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;Ca prezervant, Thimerosalul a fost folosit in concentratii de 0,003 pana la 0,01%, in unele vaccinuri. Din anul 1999 s-a renuntat treptat la folosirea lui sau a fost redus la cantitati extrem de mici, urme aproape nedetectabile, in toate vaccinurile pentru copiii sub 6 ani, cu exceptia vaccinului antigripal. Optional, exista vaccinuri pentru copiii peste 6 ani sau pentru adulti care nu mai contin Thimerosal de loc sau doar cantitati neglijabile.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;Ce inseamna o cantitate neglijabila? 1 microgram/ doza. In trecut Thimerosalul era prezent in cantitati de pana la 50 de micrograme/ doza.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;Recomandarile CDC in privinta Thimerosalului le gasiti aici:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4843a4.htm"&gt;http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4843a4.htm&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Sarurile de Aluminiu &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;sunt un adjuvanti folositi in vaccinuri pentru a mari reactia in organism, acesta urmand sa produca o cantitate mai mare de anticorpi pe o perioada mai lunga de timp.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/112/6/1394"&gt;http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/112/6/1394&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;Aluminiul este folosit in vaccinuri de mai bine de 75 de ani, de asemenea, Aluminiul este un element destul de des intalnit in apa, mancare, aer si chiar in laptele matern.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;Ca un exemplu, in laptele matern se gasesc aprox. 40 de micrograme de Al/ litru, iar in laptele formula se gasesc aprox. 225 micrograme/ litru.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;Efectele secundare serioase sunt extrem de rare, cele mai intalnite reactii adverse fiind rosata sau durerea locala.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Formaldehida &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;este folosita ca agent antimicrobian, fiind foarte eficienta in inactivarea organismelor si substantelor biologice din vaccin. Ar fi destul de ciudat ca dozele gasite in vaccin, dupa filtrarea acestuia, sa fie mai periculoase decat cantitatile mult mai mari de formaldehida pe care propriul metabolism le produce. De fapt, formaldehida este o substanta de care avem nevoie pentru a sintetiza ADN, un copil in varsta de 2 luni si cu o greutate 5,5 Kg, avand in sistem 1,1 miligrame. Aceasta cantitate este de 5 ori mai mare decat cea folosita in vacinuri.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.chop.edu/service/vaccine-education-center/hot-topics/formaldehyde.html"&gt;http://www.chop.edu/service/vaccine-education-center/hot-topics/formaldehyde.html&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;Se mai spune ca in vaccinuri ar exista &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifreeze"&gt;antigel&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;– &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene_glycol"&gt;etilen glicol&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;De fapt , in vaccinuri se foloseste &lt;a href="http://www.chemistry.co.nz/surfactants.htm"&gt;polietilen glicolul &lt;/a&gt;care este folosit pentru a inactiva virusul gripei. Aceasta substanta se gaseste si in pasta de dinti sau in laxative.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Cam astea ar fi substatele toxice cu care "conspiratia Big Farma" incearca fara succes sa reduca populatia planetei.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;Mai exista anumite substante care ar trebui sa produca greata, sa deranjeze stomacul persoanelor mai sensibile. Printre acestea se numara materialul celular din embrioni bovini sau sau embrioni de pui sau chiar embrioni umani avortati.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;Hai sa le luam pe rand.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;Culturile virale sau bacteriene au nevoie de un material pe care sa creasca.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://www.dsmz.de/human_and_animal_cell_lines/main.php?menu_id=2"&gt;Linii celulare&lt;/a&gt;, inclusiv umane, sunt crescute special in laboratoare fara sa fie nevoie de embrioni sau de bebelusi avortati! Este nevoie de cateva celule care se inmultesc la nesfarsit!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;Toate vaccinurile trec prin procedee de purificare, asa incat nu mai exista posibilitatea de a gasi material celular in produsul final.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;Rinichii de mamuta nu se gasesc in vaccinuri. Este adevarat, ca in productia vaccinului &lt;a href="http://www.fda.gov/downloads/biologicsbloodvaccines/vaccines/approvedproducts/ucm133479.pdf"&gt;Anti Polio&lt;/a&gt; Inactivat (oral) s-au folosit culturi celulare din rinichi de maimuta pentru cresterea virusului. La fel de adevarat este si faptul ca vaccinul trece prin filtrari multiple, asa incat nu se mai gaseste nici macar o jumatate de celula de rinichi in el.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;Serul fetal bovin este folosit tot pentru cresterea anumitor culturi virale si este filtrat de mai multe ori in timpul procesului de fabricatie al vaccinului.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;Daca aveti rabdare, puteti verifica lunga lista a ingredientelor folosite in producerea vaccinurilor.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf"&gt;http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style=";font-size:100%;" &gt;Atentie, multe din aceste substante nu mai exista in produsul final! In aceasta lista sunt trecute toate substantele folosite in producerea vaccinului respectiv, chiar daca in timpul procesului tehnologic au fost filtrate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style=";font-size:100%;" &gt;Chiar daca se doreste sa ne fie impusa ideea cum ca "Big Farma" produce, pe banda rulanta, diverse substante periculoase, numai pentru a ne distruge noua sanatatea, realitatea este alta. Dezvoltarea unui nou medicament sau vaccin trece prin mai multe etape si dureaza ani de zile.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style=";font-size:100%;" &gt;In Statele Unite orice vaccin porneste de la studiul de laborator si testarea pe animale, ce dureaza 2- 4 ani. Urmeaza stadiul preclinic in care se folosesc culturi celulare si se alege, prin testari pe animale, candidatul cel mai potrivit, acest pas dureaza 1-2 ani. Apoi, o companie sponsor, propune acest candidat la FDA (Food and Drug Administration) iar o comisie verifica dosarul si da un raspuns in 30 de zile.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;Daca raspunsul FDA a fost pozitiv, incepe adevarata testare a eficacitatii si sigurantei vaccinului.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;In faza I&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt; se incepe testarea pe oameni, grupuri mici de pana la 80 de subiecti. Daca vaccinul urmeaza sa fie unul pediatric, testarea se va face pe adulti. In cazul in care candidatul este promitator se trece la &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;faza a II.a, &lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;testari pe grupuri mai mari, de cateva sute de persoane, inceperea studiilor randomizate, dublu orb si se include un grup de control. In cazul in care candidatul s-a dovedit a fi atat sigur cat si eficient se trece la &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;faza a III-a &lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;ce implica grupuri de cateva mii de subiecti, teste randomizate, dublu orb si cu grupuri de control. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;In cazul in care testele sunt un succes, urmeaza o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;cerere de aprobare si licenta, &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;font-size:100%;" &gt;iar FDA verifica inca o data tot dosarul. Dupa aprobarea licentei FDA urmareste productia vaccinului, lucru care se numeste &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;monitorizare post licenta.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/vaccine-development-testing-and-regulation"&gt;http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/vaccine-development-testing-and-regulation&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Dezvoltarea unui nou vaccin sau a unui nou medicament dureaza ani de zile si reprezinta un efort financiar imens, mi se pare normal ca respectiva companie sa doreasca sa-si amortizeze investitia. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Nimeni nu a sustinut ca o companie farmaceutica ar fi o casa de binefacere. Ca orice alta firma, un producator de medicamente trebuie sa traiasca si sa produca un profit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style=""&gt;Va urma. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-2166537465839884429?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/2166537465839884429/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/02/navigand-printre-biasuri-si-disonanta_2176.html#comment-form' title='0 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/2166537465839884429'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/2166537465839884429'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/02/navigand-printre-biasuri-si-disonanta_2176.html' title='Vaccinurile: navigand printre biasuri si disonanta cognitiva III.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-6130347527620491382</id><published>2011-02-25T13:14:00.009+02:00</published><updated>2011-03-01T12:12:33.312+02:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='mercur'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='conspiratii'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='vaccinuri'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='miscarea anti-vaccin'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Andrew Wakefield'/><title type='text'>Vaccinurile: navigand printre biasuri si disonanta cognitiva II.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Istoria miscarilor anti- vaccin este la fel de veche ca si vaccinurile. Nu este o noutate ca oamenii sa de situeze pe post de "Gica Contra" in aceasta problema. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Primele incercari moderne de a imuniza organismul impotriva unor boli au avut loc in secolul XIX si sunt strans legate de dezvoltarea &lt;a href="http://teacher.pas.rochester.edu/phy_labs/appendixe/appendixe.html"&gt;metodei siintifice&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Metoda stiintifica este procesul prin care oamenii de stiinta raspund, in mod colectiv si in timp, intrebarilor despre lume, univers, boli, medicamente, vaccinuri etc. Pe metoda stiintifica se bazeaza toate descoperirile de care beneficiem, iar in momentul in care cineva propune o ipoteza noua, tot prin metoda stiintifica aceasta ipoteza este confirmata sau infirmata.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Pe scurt, metoda stiintifica se bazeaza pe patru pasi. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ol&gt;  &lt;li&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Observarea&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;  unui fenomen ce ridica intrebari. In cazul nostru, biologul  &lt;a href="http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1945/fleming-bio.html"&gt;Alexander  Fleming&lt;/a&gt; a observat in anii '20 ai secolului trecut, cum unele  culturi bacteriene au fost distruse de mucegai.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ipoteza&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;  ca un anumit tip de mucegai distruge bacteriile trebuie sa fie  testabila si &lt;a href="http://www.experiment-resources.com/falsifiability.html"&gt;falsifiabila&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Testarea&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;  moderna implica &lt;a href="http://www.skepdic.com/control.html"&gt;grupuri  de control&lt;/a&gt; si &lt;a href="http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=38696"&gt;metoda  dublu orb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;Concluzia&lt;/b&gt;  la care se ajunge dupa acesti pasi analizeaza si interpreteaza  datele obtinute din teste, si poate fi verificata de orice alt om de  stiinta.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Nici in imunologie nu se intampla altfel.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/jenner_edward.shtml"&gt;Edward Jenner &lt;/a&gt;este unul dintre pionierii imunologiei moderne, si unul dintre cei care au observat , in Secolul al XVIII- lea,  faptul o persoana infectata cu &lt;a href="http://dictionar.romedic.ro/virusul-variolei-bovine"&gt;variola bovina&lt;/a&gt; devine imuna la mult mai periculoasa &lt;a href="http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/smallpox/index.asp"&gt;variola umana&lt;/a&gt;. El a testat aceasta ipoteza, infectand cu virusul variolei bovine, existent in ranile unei bolnave, o persoana sanatoasa. Dupa cateva zile a incercat sa infecteze cu variola  persoana vaccinata, si a observat faptul ca aceasta era imuna.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;OK, pentru zilele noastre, aceasta metoda este cat se poate de periculoasa si chiar groteasca. Sa ne aducem totusi aminte ca ne aflam pe vremea cand sangerarile faceau parte din medicina.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;La inceputul Sec. XIX, s-a pornit in UK imunizarea in masa impotriva variolei, cu acest vaccin descoperit de Jenner. Cu toate ca variola decima populatia, au existat destule voci care s-au opus vaccinarii pe motiv religios sau politic ori din cauza ca nu intelegeau ideea de imbolnavire a cuiva sanatos cu o boala usoara, pentru a preveni o boala fatala.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Au aparut o multime de ligi anti-vaccin si inclusiv oameni de stiinta valorosi au ridicat obiectii acestei idei inovatoare. Printre activistii impotriva vaccinarii din epoca victoriana s-a aflat si &lt;a href="http://www.cdc.gov/eid/content/16/4/664.htm"&gt;Alfred Russel Wallace&lt;/a&gt; . Da, este vorba despre acel Wallace, care alaturi de Darwin a pus bazele principiului selectiei naturale.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;In Statele Unite, epidemia de variola de la sfarsitul Secolului al XIX-lea a dus la impunerea vaccinarilor anti variola si la aparitia miscarilor de protest in USA. In 1902 Departamentul de Sanatate al orasului C&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;ambridge, Massachusetts, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; obliga populatia sa se vaccineze impotriva variolei, lucru care duce la miscari de protest urmate de un proces in care Curtea Suprema declara, in 1905, faptul ca statul poate lua masuri de acest gen, pentru a proteja binele comun, in cazul unei boli contagioase.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://supreme.justia.com/us/197/11/index.html"&gt;http://supreme.justia.com/us/197/11/index.html&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://biotech.law.lsu.edu/cases/vaccines/Jacobson_v_Massachusetts_brief.htm"&gt;http://biotech.law.lsu.edu/cases/vaccines/Jacobson_v_Massachusetts_brief.htm&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;Aceasta a fost prima sentinta data de Curtea Suprema intr-o problema ce tine de sanatatea publica, si privind retrospectiv, observam ca a fost o decizie potrivita.  &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Pericolul imbolnavirii de variola nu mai exista.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;Sa inaintam spre perioada contemporana, pastrand in minte faptul ca miscarile anti vaccin au existat  fara intrerupere, in tot acest timp.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;In anii '70 ai secolului trecut, vaccinul DTP (impotriva &lt;b&gt;D&lt;/b&gt;ifteriei,&lt;b&gt; T&lt;/b&gt;etanosului, si tusei convulsive- &lt;b&gt;P&lt;/b&gt;ertussis), a intrat in atentia miscarilor anti vaccin din Europa, generand o controversa cu privire la siguranta lui. Problema parea sa vina de la "componenta Pertussis" a vaccinului, ce ar fi provocat complicatii neurologice cum ar fi encefalopatia.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;Un raport din anul 1974 in UK, arata ca in 36 de cazuri copii supusi vaccinarii DTP in ultimii 11 ani, se pare ca au suferit probleme neurologice, complicatiile survenite in decurs de 24 de ore de la vaccinare, sugerand faptul ca este mai mult decat o coincidenta.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;Se recomanda aprofundarea studiilor in ceea ce priveste componenta Pertussis.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://adc.bmj.com/content/49/1/46"&gt;http://adc.bmj.com/content/49/1/46&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;Mass Media inflameaza recomandarile acestui raport si apare "The Association of Parents of Vaccine Damaged Children". Ca urmare, teama opiniei publice fata de posibiliele efecte negative ale vaccinarii DTP creste, numarul de vaccinari scade iar Anglia este lovita de trei mari epidemii de Tuse Convulsiva intre 1974 si 1982.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00001197.htm"&gt;http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00001197.htm&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;In mod normal, boala a cauzat mai multe probleme copiilor sub varsta de 1 an, 40% dintre pacientii spitalizati avand o varsta sub 6 luni.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;Intre 1977 si 1979 au fost raportate 102500 de cazuri, au fost internati 5000 de copii dintre care 2000 sub 6 luni, 50 au avut nevoie de reanimare, 200 au facut pneumonie, 83 au suferit convulsii.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;In acelasi timp vaccinul DTP oferea protectie in 94% dintre cazuri.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Ca raspuns la acest raport, &lt;a href="http://www.dh.gov.uk/ab/JCVI/DH_094786"&gt;Joint Commission on Vaccination and Immunization&lt;/a&gt; a declansat un Studiu national pe tema encefalopatiei la copii. In cadrul acestui studiu au fost inclusi toti copiii care prezentau boli neurologice si aveau o varsta cuprinsa intre 2 luni si 2 ani jumate. &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;S-a incercat stabilirea unei cauzalitati intre vaccinarea DTP si aparitia simptomelor bolii.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1607925/"&gt;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1607925/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6786580?ordinalpos=1&amp;amp;itool=PPMCLayout.PPMCAppController.PPMCArticlePage.PPMCPubmedRA&amp;amp;linkpos=1"&gt;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6786580?ordinalpos=1&amp;amp;itool=PPMCLayout.PPMCAppController.PPMCArticlePage.PPMCPubmedRA&amp;amp;linkpos=1&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Studiul nu a putut dovedi cauzalitatea intre vaccin si encefalopatie.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;La 10 ani dupa terminarea acestui studiu, datele au fost reevaluate si 80% dintre pacianti reexaminati. Nici dupa 10 ani nu a putut fi dovedit ca cei vaccinati ar avea un risc mai mare de a dezvolta boli neurologice decat drupul de control.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://books.google.de/books?hl=de&amp;amp;lr=&amp;amp;id=Dcq3PX-3l3AC&amp;amp;oi=fnd&amp;amp;pg=PA1&amp;amp;dq=National+Childhood+Encephalopathy+Study&amp;amp;ots=vQ2wGNuHic&amp;amp;sig=83Cd970toXFZ1nyyLUgn_ergHoU#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;http://books.google.de/books?hl=de&amp;amp;lr=&amp;amp;id=Dcq3PX-3l3AC&amp;amp;oi=fnd&amp;amp;pg=PA1&amp;amp;dq=National+Childhood+Encephalopathy+Study&amp;amp;ots=vQ2wGNuHic&amp;amp;sig=83Cd970toXFZ1nyyLUgn_ergHoU#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;In 1994, in USA a fost efectuat un alt studiu in incercarea de a transa controversa posibilei legaturi intre vaccinarea DTP si bolile neurologice la copii.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Au fost identificate 424 de cazuri confirmate din 218000 de copii vaccinati cu varste intre 1 luna si 2 ani, rezidenti in Oregon si Washington. &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Concluziile studiului au fost ca nu exista, statistic vorbind, nici un risc major de aparitie a unor simptome neurologice  serioase intr-o perioada scurta de la vaccinare (7 zile). &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Cauzalitatea nu a putut fi dovedita.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/271/1/37.abstract"&gt;http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/271/1/37.abstract&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;Un grafic al cazurilor de Pertussis in USA, ne arata cat de importanta este vaccinarea.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/figures/r503a1f1.gif" name="Grafik1" align="BOTTOM" border="0" height="300" width="400" /&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5503a1.htm"&gt;http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5503a1.htm&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal;"&gt;Intre timp, vaccinul DTP a evoluat si nu se mai foloseste, la fabricarea lui, material celular al Bordetellei Pertussis. El a devenit mai sigur, pastrandu-si eficacitatea de 95% si chiar de 100% in cazul tetanosului. Componenta anti difterie asigura o protectie de 95% timp de 10 ani, dupa aceasta perioada, la contactul cu boala cel vaccinat putand suferi forme usoare de difterie.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.immunizationinfo.org/vaccines/tetanus"&gt;http://www.immunizationinfo.org/vaccines/tetanus&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;Nici mult blamatul &lt;a href="http://www.immunize.org/thimerosal/"&gt;Thimerosal&lt;/a&gt;, despre care o sa vorbesc mai pe larg, nu mai este prezent in toate vaccinurile.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;Dupa aproape 25 de ani, apare controversa MMR (Measles, Mumps, and Rubella) vaccin care in Romania poarta numele de ROR (Rujeola, Oreion, Rubeola).&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;In aceasta controversa se insinueaza ca MMR ar fi responsabil de aparitia &lt;a href="http://www.romedic.ro/autismul"&gt;tulburarilor de spectru autist.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;In 1998, respecatul jurnal medical englez &lt;a href="http://www.thelancet.com/"&gt;The Lancet&lt;/a&gt; publica un studiu al medicului &lt;a href="http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=5343"&gt;Andrew Wakefield&lt;/a&gt;, studiu ce declanseaja o intreaga isterie in presa si printre parinti.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;Din pacate, si aici este vina editorilor The Lancet, nimeni nu a verificat cu atentie acest studiu o lunga perioada de timp. Abia cand jurnalistul Brian Deer observa faptul ca intregul studiu s-a bazat pe fraudarea celor mai elementare cerinte ale metodei stiintifice, datele sunt verificate si ies la iveala neregulile.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article5683671.ece"&gt;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article5683671.ece&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;The Lancet retrage articolul si se incepe investigarea mai atenta a datelor, iar Consiliul General al Medicilor din UK retrage in 2010  licenta lui Wakefield. De asemenea, in 2011 studiul este declarat de catre British Medical Journal  a fi o frauda.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c7452.full"&gt;http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c7452.full&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;Cum a fost aranjat studiul?&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;Studiul original a fost facut pe 12 copii.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;3 din 9 cazuri de &lt;a href="http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001526.htm"&gt;autism regresiv&lt;/a&gt; raportate, nu au fost diagnosticate cu nici un fel de tulburare de spectru autist. Numai 1 copil suferea de autism regresiv.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;Studiul sustinea ca toti copiii s-ar fi dezvoltat normal pana la vaccinarea MMR. In fapt, 5 dintre acestia erau luati in evidenta pentru tulburari de dezvoltare inaintea vaccinarii,&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;In cazul catorva copii a fost raportata aparitia simptomelor la cateva zile de la vaccinare, dar din documentele medicale nu reiese acest lucru, etc.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;Mai multe informatii aici:&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c5347.full"&gt;http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.c5347.full&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=9552"&gt;http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=9552&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://pediatrics.about.com/b/2011/01/07/mmr-scare-fraud-further-exposed.htm"&gt;http://pediatrics.about.com/b/2011/01/07/mmr-scare-fraud-further-exposed.htm&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Din cauza isteriei provocate de aceasta frauda, numarul vaccinarilor a scazut iar de suferit au avut tot copiii.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;In partea a III-a noi atacuri ale miscarii anti-vaccin si cele mai la moda conspiratii.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-6130347527620491382?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/6130347527620491382/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/02/navigand-printre-biasuri-si-disonanta_25.html#comment-form' title='0 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/6130347527620491382'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/6130347527620491382'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/02/navigand-printre-biasuri-si-disonanta_25.html' title='Vaccinurile: navigand printre biasuri si disonanta cognitiva II.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-8612150816918266748</id><published>2011-02-23T10:16:00.027+02:00</published><updated>2011-03-01T11:49:08.025+02:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='conspiratii'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='vaccinuri'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='miscarea anti-vaccin'/><title type='text'>Vaccinurile: navigand printre biasuri si disonanta cognitiva.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Aceasta postare este un raspuns la o serie de articole gasite pe blogul &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="font-family: arial;" href="http://www.cristelageorgescu.ro/"&gt;Cristelei Georgescu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial;font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt; si o incercare de sensibilizare a parintilor in a cauta informatii pe pagini stiintifice si nu pe pagini conspirationiste.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;blockquote style="margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; text-align: left; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Motto: Copiii nu sunt niste "mini me" ei sunt persoane in devenire si ar trebui tratati cu respect si nu indoctrinati in diversele credinte ale adultilor.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Ma simt nevoita sa reiau discutia despre vaccinuri deoarece observ ca tot mai multe persoane educate si care au posibilitatea de a gasi informatii corecte cad prada &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"&gt;biasului de confirmare&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;,&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;selectand din informatia gasita numai lucrurile care le confirma credintele. In momentul in care li se prezinta dovezi contrare propriilor credinte intervine &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://psihologiesociala.uv.ro/psihologie-sociala/disonanta-cognitiva.php"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;disonanta cognitiva&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;ce duce la imaginarea celor mai ciudate conspiratii, Ex. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/09/the_big_pharma_conspiracy.php"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Big Farma Conspiracy and mercury that causes autism&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;OK, sa intram in materie.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Pentru ca eu nu cred pe "oricine" si cu atat mai mult nu cred tot ce vad la televizor, pentru ca ma lasa rece titlurile de Doctor Doctor iar experienta medicala sau in alt domeniu imi este egala atata timp cat contrazice evidenta, cat si pentru ca sunt atenta la sursele citate am sa dau link-urile direct in engleza, in romana nici nu prea exista informatie. De asemenea am sa incerc sa produc 3 surse pentru fiecare afirmatie&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Programele de vaccinare sunt considerate de catre specialisti unele dintre marile realizari medicale ale secolului XX, dar ideea de pregati organismul in vederea luptei cu un agresor extern este mult mai veche.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Boli necrutatoare, cum ar fi ciuma si holera, decimau populatia si in timp ce unii le considerau pedepse ale zeilor existau si oameni care vedeau in aceste boli rezultatul infectiei cu un organism atat de mic incat nu poate fi vazut cu ochiul liber.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Acelasi lucru se intampla si in cazul &lt;b&gt;variolei&lt;/b&gt;, o alta boala infectioasa necrutatoare, din fericire eradicata printr-un program mondial de vaccinare&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/smallpox/vaccination/facts.asp"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/smallpox/vaccination/facts.asp&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Mortalitatea medie in cazul variolei este de 30 % dar au existat si tulpini cu o mortalitate de 96%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5010a1.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5010a1.htm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Child_with_Smallpox_Bangladesh.jpg/393px-Child_with_Smallpox_Bangladesh.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Child_with_Smallpox_Bangladesh.jpg/393px-Child_with_Smallpox_Bangladesh.jpg" name="Grafik1" align="BOTTOM" border="0" height="410" vspace="5" width="317" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Nu-i asa ca va simtiti norocosi sa traiti in timpuri in care copiii vostrii nu mai risca sa se imbolnaveasca de variola? Cu toate acestea, vaccinul impotriva variolei a fost si el contestat si are si el posibile efecte secundare&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Efectele secundare ale vaccinului impotriva variolei pornesc de la o mica iritatie in locul intepaturii sau dureri minore si pot duce chiar la pierderea vietii. Copiilor sub 12 luni nu le este recomandat si nici femeilor gravide. Cu toate ca 1000 de persoane la 1 milion pot avea reactii adverse serioase, ideea de a face o boala ca variola este mult mai inspaimantatoare&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Ce bine ca nu mai trebuie sa-l facem, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=516"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;imunitatea de turma&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;ne protejeaza, iar virusul nu prea mai exista in libertate. De vaccinul antivariolic am scapat!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;O alta boala necrutatoare a intrat in atentia forurilor medicale ce incearca prin programele de vaccinare sa o stearga din memoria oamenilor&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Aceasta boala este &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001402.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Poliomielita&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;, numita si paralizie virala infantila&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Womanonsideinlung.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Womanonsideinlung.jpg" name="Grafik2" align="BOTTOM" border="0" height="208" vspace="5" width="360" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Womanonsideinlung.jpg"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Womanonsideinlung.jpg&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Iar acesta este un plaman mecanic. Da, poliomielita are prostul obicei de a omori lent, prin sufocare&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Chiar si in cazul celor care au avut forme usoare ale bolii nu se poate spune ca au scapat neatinsi, avand in vedere ca polio este o boala ce lasa urme adanci si dizabilitati majore si care poate avea efect si in cateva zeci de ani.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001402.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001402.htm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;I&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;n urma eforturilor conjugate de eradicare s-a ajuns ca polio virusii sa mai existe in libertate numai in regiuni izolate din Africa sau Asia. Din cauza ca boala nu este inca eradicata, vaccinul anti polio este recomandat chiar si in tarile in care nu au mai existat cazuri de mai bine de 20 de ani&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/vis/downloads/vis-ipv.pdf"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/vis/downloads/vis-ipv.pdf&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/history-polio-poliomyelitis"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/history-polio-poliomyelitis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Efectele secundare ale vaccinului anti polio modern (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/different-types-vaccines"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;cu virus inactivat&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;) sunt blande, iritatii sau dureri locale. Nu se cunoaste nici un caz in care noul vaccin antipolio sa fi provocat probleme majore de sanatate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Poliomielita este o boala pentru care nu exista tratament, in cazurile in care boala ia forme paralizante mortalitatea ajunge la 30 % in cazul adultilor si la 5 % in cazul copiilor. Cei care scapa de moartea prin asfixie raman, in general, cu handicapuri motorice.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;De ce am risca aparitia unor noi epidemii de polio? de ce sa vedem iarasi copii asa?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nnz-online.de/_daten/cache/464_49776_1016_34598245.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.nnz-online.de/_daten/cache/464_49776_1016_34598245.jpg" name="Grafik3" align="BOTTOM" border="0" height="270" vspace="5" width="389" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nnz-online.de/news/news_lang.php?ArtNr=66469"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;http://www.nnz-online.de/news/news_lang.php?ArtNr=66469&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Consider ca este nevoie de o mai mare mobilizare, de mai multe fonduri pentru a scapa definitiv de umbra paraliziei virale infantile, abia atunci am putea pune vaccinul anti polio pe raftul pe care se afla si cel anti variola!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;O boala din cauza careia sunt infectati la nastere mii de copii este &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;tetanosul&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;. Tetanosul neonatal reprezinta un risc major in tarile sarace unde nasterile nu sunt asistate de personal medical sau unde instrumentarul nu este corect sterilizat si unde mamele nu sunt imunizate anti tetanic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Taxonomy/Browser/wwwtax.cgi?mode=Info&amp;amp;id=1513&amp;amp;lvl=3&amp;amp;lin=f&amp;amp;keep=1&amp;amp;srchmode=1&amp;amp;unlock"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Clostridium Tetani&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;este o bacterie raspandita in sol si rezistenta la fierbere.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;In mod normal, la nastere, copiii ai caror mame au fost imunizate antitetanic au o oarecare protectie pasiva ce este activ intarita o data cu vaccinul.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/phil/images/6374.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/phil/images/6374.jpg" name="Grafik4" align="BOTTOM" border="0" height="274" vspace="5" width="378" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/phil/html/neonatal-tetanus/6374.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/phil/html/neonatal-tetanus/6374.html&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20348112"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20348112&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Tetanosul nu este o gripa iar imunizarea ar trebui sa fie obligatorie. Mortalitatea in cazul imbolnavirii este de 45% iar vaccinarea reduce riscul cu 94%.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Pe termen scurt, este imposibil sa ne imaginam viata fara acest vaccin, bacteria raspunzatoare este mult prea raspandita. Tot ce putem face este sa ne vaccinam, sa facem rapelurile, iar in cazul in care avem suspiciunea ca ne-am fi putut infecta, sa mergem imediat la medic pentru o revaccinare.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;b&gt;Hepatita B&lt;/b&gt; se cronicizeaza in 10 % dintre cazuri si poate fi transmisa la nastere. In cazul cronicizarii ei riscul a dezvolta un carcinom hepatic creste cu 40 %.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Tocmai din cauza riscului transmiterii virusului la nastere, de la mama purtatoare la fat, si din cauza epidemiilor majore ce au existat in trecut, s-a luat decizia introducerii vaccinului anti Hepatita B. El este eficient in 95% dintre cazuri si este practic imposibil sa se imbolnaveasca cineva de hepatita tip B dupa vaccinare, in cazul noului tip de vaccin recombinat.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.hepb.org/professionals/hepatitis_b_vaccine.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;http://www.hepb.org/professionals/hepatitis_b_vaccine.htm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Vaccinarea copiilor impotriva Hepatitei B a dus la scaderea pana la 1% a riscului de cronicizare si automat a scazut riscul de a dezvolta un cancer hepatic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.who.int/immunization/topics/hepatitis_b/en/index.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;http://www.who.int/immunization/topics/hepatitis_b/en/index.html&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;In cazul &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.romedic.ro/difteria/evolutie-si-prognostic"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;difteriei&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;,&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;boala contagioasa care in 20% din cazuri se complica in miocardita iar in 10 % dintre cazuri in neuropatie periferica, mortalitatea este de 20% in cazul copiilor sub 5 ani sau a adultilor peste 40 de ani.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;La inceputul secolului trecut difteria era a treia cauza de mortalitate infantila in UK.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;De la inceputul campaniilor de vaccinare, cazurile de difterie au scazut dramatic, intre anii 2004 si 2008 ne mai mai fiind raportat nici un caz de imbolnavire in USA&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/diphtheria"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/diphtheria&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Nici in Europa nu mai exista riscul de a fi infectati cu Corynebacterium diphteriae&lt;i&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications/Publications/0911_GUI_Scientific_Panel_on_Childhood_Immunisation_DTP.pdf"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;http://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications/Publications/0911_GUI_Scientific_Panel_on_Childhood_Immunisation_DTP.pdf&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vaccineinformation.org/photos/diphwho001a.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.vaccineinformation.org/photos/diphwho001a.jpg" name="Grafik5" align="BOTTOM" border="0" height="102" vspace="5" width="160" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vaccineinformation.org/photos/diphiac002.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.vaccineinformation.org/photos/diphiac002.jpg" name="Grafik6" align="BOTTOM" border="0" height="256" vspace="5" width="384" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.vaccineinformation.org/diphther/photos.asp"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;http://www.vaccineinformation.org/diphther/photos.asp&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: bold; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Va deranjeaza imaginile? imi pare rau; si pe mine ma deranjeaza faptul ca anumiti oameni si-ar dori ca aceste imagini sa ne apara live, in familii.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;b&gt;Vaccinul BCG&lt;/b&gt;, impotriva bacilului Calmette-Guérin, are o eficienta variabila impotriva tuberculozei pulmonare, in medie 50%. Eficianta variabila se datoreaza, printre altele, fondului genetic al pacientului, diverselor tulpini ale acestei bacterii, mediului din care provin bolanvii si a faptului ca unii dintre bolnavi au avut un contact mai indelungat cu bacilul.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8309034"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8309034&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);font-size:100%;" &gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Chiar daca nu ofera o protectie suficienta impotriva tuberculozei pulmonare, vaccinul BCG protejaza in proportie de 75- 80% impotriva meningitei tuberculoase si a tuberculozei miliare.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/22/6/1154.short"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/22/6/1154.short&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);font-size:100%;" &gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/t/tuberculous_meningitis/intro.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;Meningita tuberculoasa&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);font-size:100%;" &gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;este produsa de acelasi bacil, care in loc sa atace plamanii se instaleaza pe membrana care acopera creierul. Sa va arat un creier bolnav? Sa va explic ce anume se intampla cu copilul bolnav? Cred ca nu este nevoie. Este de ajuns sa va spun ca si cei care supravietuiesc vor trebui urmariti atat neurologic cat si psihiatric.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/t/tuberculous_meningitis/prognosis.htm"&gt;Tuberculoza miliara&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt; netratata are o mortalitate de aproape 100%, cu tratament mortalitatea ramane 10%.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sa continuam cu&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);font-size:100%;" &gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cdc.gov/Features/Pertussis/"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;&lt;b&gt;tusea convulsiva&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;, a treia componenta a vaccinului DTP.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Ati avut vreodata tuse convulsiva? ati vazut pe cineva care se chinuie sa respire printre accesele de tuse, ati simtit pe propria piele ce inseamna sa nu aveti destul timp sa respirati intre doua crize? Eu am avut, pe la 12 ani, pe vremea mea nu se facea vaccin impotriva Bordetella pertussis.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Tusea convulsiva pune in pericol viata unui nou nascut, chiar daca pentru un copil ceva mai mare nu mai reprezinta un pericol. Ideea care sta in spatele programului de vaccinare este prevenirea imbolnavirii celor mai sensibili dintre noi, a nou nascutilor si a persoanelor cu imunitate compromisa, primul vaccin combinat Difterie- Tetanos- Pertussis facandu-se la varsta de 4 luni.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt; &lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;O imbolnavire inainte ca un nou nascut sa fie vaccinat (primele 4 luni de viata) duce in multe din cazuri la deces. In momentul in care copilul ajuns sa fie oxigenat artificial, riscul de deces este de 70%.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.aap-ca.org/clinical/pertussis/pertussis_in_young_infants.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;http://www.aap-ca.org/clinical/pertussis/pertussis_in_young_infants.html&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);font-size:100%;" &gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Protectia celor mai sensibili dintre noi este asigurata tot de imunitatea de turma.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;O sa va intrebati de ce ar muri cineva dintr-o tuse. Ei bine, aprox. 90% mor din cauza pneumoniei, deshidratarii, hipoxiei (lipsei de oxigen), encefalopatiei sau a hemoragiilor cerebrale produse de accesele de tuse. &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/803186-overview"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"&gt;http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/803186-overview&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Cu ce am mai ramas? Am ramas cu rujeola, rubeola si oreionul.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.medicinenet.com/measles_rubeola/article.htm"&gt;Rujeola&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;b&gt; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;este o boala contagioasa grava, mai ales pentru copiii sub un an. Vaccinarea corecta (in doua faze) asigura o protectie de 98%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;img src="http://images.medicinenet.com/images/Government/measles1.jpg" name="Grafik8" align="BOTTOM" border="0" height="250" width="375" /&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;http://images.medicinenet.com/images/Government/measles1.jpg&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Cu rujeola nu este de glumit, febra poate ajunge la 40°, complicatiile pot fi majore, mortalitatea in cazul tarilor dezvoltate, chiar daca ramane mica, ajunge la 3 la mie. In cazul tarilor sarace, pojarul ramane una dintre cauzele mortalitatii infantile.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5408a4.htm"&gt;http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5408a4.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Efectele adverse ale vaccinarii ROR sunt febra in 5 -15% din cazuri, iritatii in 5% din cazuri si dureri articulare in 5% dintre cazuri. In cazul vaccinarii adultilor, 25% au raportat dureri articulare.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.medicinenet.com/measles_rubeola/page7.htm#reactions"&gt;http://www.medicinenet.com/measles_rubeola/page7.htm#reactions&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;Pojarul contactat in timpul sarcinii poate provoca avortul spontan, oprirea sarcinii din evolutie sau o nastere prematura&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sfatulmedicului.ro/dictionar-medical/oreion_1938"&gt;Oreionul&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;b&gt;, &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;parotidita epidemica, este o boala infectioasa contagioasa ce poate avea complicatii grave cum ar fi meningita, encefalita, orhita (inflamatia testiculelor), pancreatita sau pierderea auzului. Vaccinul asigura imunitate in 95% dintre cazuri.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1583479/"&gt;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1583479/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/rubella.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rubeola&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;, este o boala cu o evolutie destul de blanda. Pentru femeile insarcinate, insa, ea reprezinta un pericol major. De cele mai multe ori, o infectie in timpul sarcinii se soldeaza cu un avort spontan sau cu malformatii grave ale fatului.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;Programul de vaccinare incearca sa reduca riscul de &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001658.htm"&gt;Rubeola congenitala&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;, iar vacinand copiii va asigurati de faptul ca generatiile viitoare se vor naste sanatoase.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://embryology.med.unsw.edu.au/Defect/rubella.htm"&gt;http://embryology.med.unsw.edu.au/Defect/rubella.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt;&lt;img src="http://www.pathguy.com/sol/53732.jpg" name="Grafik9" align="BOTTOM" border="0" height="330" width="243" /&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pathguy.com/lectures/infect.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;www.pathguy.com/lectures/infect.htm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);font-size:100%;" &gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Am trecut in revista vaccinurile cele mai cunoscute, cuprinse in programele de vaccinare in majoritatea tarilor civilizate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Urmeaza istoria miscarii anti-vaccin.Consider ca este mai bine asa, adica despartirea partii stiintifice de bullshitul conspirationisto- panicard. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%; font-family: arial;" align="LEFT"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In al doilea rand articolul ar fi muuult prea lung si ar risca sa nu fie citit. Va recomand, mai ales "posesoarelor de copii" sa puneti in balanta riscurile si beneficiile, la fel cum o faceti de fiecare data cand va scoateti copilul la aer.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;" lang="de-DE"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-8612150816918266748?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/8612150816918266748/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/02/navigand-printre-biasuri-si-disonanta.html#comment-form' title='0 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/8612150816918266748'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/8612150816918266748'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/02/navigand-printre-biasuri-si-disonanta.html' title='Vaccinurile: navigand printre biasuri si disonanta cognitiva.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-4273140706157680395</id><published>2011-02-17T13:10:00.007+02:00</published><updated>2011-02-17T15:46:55.565+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Planned obsolescence (uzura morala planificata) si presiunile societatii de consum.</title><content type='html'>V-ati intrebat vreodata de ce aparatele electronice si elecocasnice tind sa se stice exact dupa ce au iesit din garantie?&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chiar daca nu cred in blesteme sau mai stiu eu ce deochiuri, dupa ce a doua masina de spalat si-a dat duhul la aproximativ 2 ani si 6 luni si dupa ce imprimanta a murit la 3 ani am inceput sa ma gandesc la faptul ca toate aceste obiecte sunt construite in asa fel incat sa se strice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Acum cateva seri am vazut un reportaj care imi confirma ideile schizofrenice si care mi-a demonstrat ca am aruncat la gunoi o biata imprimanta nevinovata, dar care era programata ca dupa 18 mii de pagini sa nu mai functioneze.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reportajul il gasiti pe Arte,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://videos.arte.tv/de/videos/kaufen_fuer_die_muellhalde-3700234.html"&gt;http://videos.arte.tv/de/videos/kaufen_fuer_die_muellhalde-3700234.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oricat de mult urasc ideea de conspiratie, in cazul P.L. (planned obsolescence) chiar au existat si mai exista carteluri care dicteaza cat anume ar trebui sa reziste un produs si care impiedica inginerii sa gaseasca solutii pentru a imbunatati durata de viata a produselor sau ii trimit inapoi la planseta pentru a gasi solutii de reducere a ei.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Statele Unite, un bec cu incandescenta  va implini in acest an, pe 18 iunie, 110 ani de cand arde iar o camera de luat vederi transmite pe internet imagini care se updateaza la fiecare 30 de secunde (de cand s-a inceput cu transmiterea pe net a imaginilor o camera s-a stricat, a rezistat numai 3 ani). In acelasi timp, becurile moderne au o durata de viata medie 1000 de ore.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.centennialbulb.org/photos.htm"&gt;http://www.centennialbulb.org/photos.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ideea este ca la inceputurile industrializarii inginerii au avut tendinta de a proiecta si construi lucruri trainice (printre aceste lucruri se numara si becurile) apoi managerii au constatat ca o data cumparat un produs oamenii aveau tendinta de a nu-l arunca pana cand nu se strica de tot. Rezistenta in timp producea daune financiare.&lt;br /&gt;Industia si-a dat seama ca este in interesul ei sa produca in asa fel incat nevoile cumparatorului sa fie satisfacute un interval scurt de timp, si practic sa-l oblige sa cumpere iarasi. Resursele pareau nelimitate iar ecologia nu fusese inventata, asa incat parea logic ca industria sa doreasca cresterea economica printr-o crestere a consumului.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unii dintre primii care si-au dat seama de acest lucru au fost marii producatori de becuri care au infiintat Cartelul Phoebus. Printre altii din cartel au facut parte Osram, Philips and General Electric, din 1924 pana in 1939 au controlat productia si vanzarea si au impus standardul de 1000 de ore garantate de care ne mai lovim si astazi.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;O a doua lovitura a fost data nylonului. Primii ciorapi produsi din nylon au incantat femeile prin faptul ca erau foarte rezistenti, conducerea DuPont nu a fost atat de incantata deoarece doamnele nu mai aveau nevoie sa cumpere atat de des, din aceasta cauza chimistii au fost trimisi inapoi in laboratoare pentru a gasi o solutie de reducere a rezistentei nylonului. Ce noroc, razele ultraviolete distrug fibrele in cazul in care nu sunt tratate chimic corespunzator...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Am ajuns si la imprimanta mea nevinovata. Pana nu am vazut reportajul nu am avut habar ca durata ei de viata este masurata exact, de un cip ce contorizeaza numarul de pagini tiparite si nici nu am stiut ca exista un programel care ar putea reseta cipul. Eu, cand am vazut ca nu mai printeaza, am dat fuga la service unde un domn foarte amabil mi-a spus ca nu mai merita s-o repar, are TREI ani (o eternitate)... sa cumpar alta.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;La fel am facut si cu cele doua masini de spalat, la care dupa doi ani de strica inevitabil "partea electronica". Acum mai uit cu durere la aspiratorul pe care am dat 150 de Euro si care mai are 6 luni pana iese din garantie, singurul lucru ce ma mai alina este faptul ca stiu ca la subsol am un aspirator de la soacra mea, un Vorwerk urias si foarte scump, pe care l-am urat din prima clipa, dar care are garantie 30 de ani!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Uneori simt ca suntem impinsi de la spate ca vitele, trebuie sa cumparam ultimul tip de telefon mobil, trebuie sa cumparam ultimul model de televizor, computerul se uzeaza moral in 6 luni, hainele se arunca in fiecare sezon, chiar si mobila simtim nevoia s-o schimbam (ca ne plictisim de ea). Muncim pentru groapa de gunoi si pentru un grafic colorat in care guvernele ne arata "cresterea economica"!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-4273140706157680395?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/4273140706157680395/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/02/planned-obsolescence-uzura-morala.html#comment-form' title='25 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/4273140706157680395'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/4273140706157680395'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/02/planned-obsolescence-uzura-morala.html' title='Planned obsolescence (uzura morala planificata) si presiunile societatii de consum.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>25</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-6893247066029222662</id><published>2011-02-11T14:11:00.002+02:00</published><updated>2011-02-11T15:03:17.521+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Stop indocrinarii religioase in scoli! - Campanie ASUR</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MnrTudU8BOE/TVPMv1g8eYI/AAAAAAAAB24/RDXtlrpDTQE/s1600/ursulet.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 250px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MnrTudU8BOE/TVPMv1g8eYI/AAAAAAAAB24/RDXtlrpDTQE/s1600/ursulet.JPG" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sustin campania lansata de Asociaţia Secular-Umanistă din România si sunt de parere ca religia de tip confesional nu are ce cauta in programa scolara.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Inainte de a posta comunicatul ASUR doresc sa-mi exprim opinia personala pentru care mi-am retras fata de la orele de religie si am interzis scolii sa o care la biserica. Este adevarat ca eu nu locuiesc in Romania dar nici in Germania nu e mai bine!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ca parinte, mi se pare complet antiproductiv ca la ora de biologie sau geografie un copil sa invete un lucru, numai pentru ca la ora de religie sa-i fie spus contrariul. &lt;div&gt;In filmul urmator, un preot si profesor de religie explica elevilor cum ca Soarele se roteste in jurul Pamantului. Dovezile pe care se bazeaza acest profesor sunt spusele "sfintilor parinti" care insuflati fiind de Sfantul Duh nu s-ar fi putut insela.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;iframe title="YouTube video player" width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ZLdcVG9aUYQ" frameborder="0"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Pe cine ar trebui sa creada elevul pe profesorul de geografie sau pe profesorul de religie? sau mai important, pe profesorul de geografie sau pe "sfintii parinti"?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;O a doua problema a studierii religiei in mod confesional este faptul ca se creaza artificial enclave, comunitati separate in care fiecare considera ca restul e pacatos. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Din moment ce la ora de religie ortodoxa, copiii invata cum ca ortodoxia e singura cale spre mantuire iar la ora de religie catolica, catolicii invata faptul ca numai religia lor e cea dreapta, ca sa nu mai spun ce inseamna o ora de religie islamica unde copiilor li se explica fapul ca islamul este singura cale, ne mai miram ca nu putem trai in pace? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;O a treia problema ar fi folosirea fricii, terorizarea copiilor cu imaginile unui zeu care le urmareste fiecare miscare, ideea ca pentru fiecare greseala risca sa arda in iad, gandul ca un prietan de o alta confesiune ar putea fi pedepsit din simplul motiv ca nu respecta dogma corecta. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Considerati ca e usor pentru un copil sa inteleaga ca prietenul lui de o alta confesiune care a murit intr-un accident a ajuns in iad? cu aceasta declaratie a fost transformat sotul meu din catolic in ateu. Avea 12 ani cand prietenul lui baptist a murit intr-un accident de ski, iar preotul catolic nu a putut sa-i dea alta explicatie decat faptul ca dumnezeu l-a pedepsit pentru erazia lui si ca a ajuns in iad. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Cu asta am incheiat, as putea fi convinsa sa se faca ore de Istoria religiilor, dar nu din clasa I si nu mai mult de un an, ca e de ajuns. Mai bine sa se faca ore de logica, poate asa ar fi aflat si popa de mai sus ca argumentul vechimii unei credinte si cel al autoritatii sunt greseli de logica.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://secularumanisti.blogspot.com/2011/02/asur-lanseaza-campania-stop.html"&gt;http://secularumanisti.blogspot.com/2011/02/asur-lanseaza-campania-stop.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(94, 94, 94); font-family: Georgia, Utopia, 'Palatino Linotype', Palatino, serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; "&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Prevederile Legii 1/2011 în privinţa predării religiei in şcoli vin în contradicţie flagrantă cu Constituţia României, cu Legea privind protecţia şi promovarea drepturilor copilului (272/2004), cu Codul Muncii şi chiar şi cu Legea Cultelor (489/2006):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- lipsa unui mecanism de înscriere voluntară, pe baza unei decizii informate a părinţilor şi a elevilor, instaurează obligativitatea de facto a studierii Religiei în şcoală, fapt ce violează art. 29 al. (1) din Constituţie&lt;br /&gt;      Prevederea conform căreia se poate solicita ca elevul să nu frecventeze orele de Religie este insuficientă în condiţiile în care, în practică, şcolile, din motive administrative, sînt extrem de reticente în a informa elevii şi părinţii şi de a accepta o astfel de opţiune.&lt;br /&gt;      Trebuie menţionat şi că prevederile actualei legi sînt mai restrictive decît cele din anterioara Lege a învăţămîntului (84/1995), care recunoştea dreptul elevilor şi părinţilor de a alege religia şi confesiunea&lt;br /&gt;includerea din oficiu a elevilor la orele de Religie, fără a se ţine cont de opinia lor, încalcă art. 24 al. (1) şi art. 25 din Legea drepturilor copilului (272/2004)&lt;br /&gt;- interzicerea dreptului la opţiune pentru elevii care au împlinit 16 ani este în contradicţie evidentă cu art. 3 al. (2) din Legea Cultelor (489/2006)&lt;br /&gt;- introducerea obligativităţii unui aviz din partea cultului la angajarea profesorilor de religie, pe lîngă accentuarea caracterului confesional al orelor de Religie, încalcă flagrant prevederile art. 5 din Codului Muncii&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Poziţia ASUR este neechivocă: în unităţile de învăţămînt de stat trebuie păstrată o strictă neutralitate religioasă, iar în cadrul orelor de Religie trebuie predată Istoria Religiilor şi nu doar viziunea particulară a unui anumit cult, indiferent care ar fi acela.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Maniera actuală de predare a religiei corespunde perfect definiţiei îndoctrinării:&lt;br /&gt;- predarea se face de o manieră confesională, oferindu-se o singură viziune asupra fenomenului religios&lt;br /&gt;se urmăreşte izolarea copiilor de orice concepţie alternativă prin sfaturi de genul “&lt;i&gt;Să ne alegem prieteni credincioşi&lt;/i&gt;!” sau prin catalogarea drept &lt;i&gt;“păcătoşi&lt;/i&gt;” a celor “&lt;i&gt;care cred altfel decât ne învaţă Biserica Ortodoxă&lt;/i&gt;”&lt;br /&gt;- profesorii de religie fiind la cheremul cultului respectiv (şi al structurii teritoriale locale în special), trebuie să respecte întru-totul dogma bisericească; în caz contrar li se poate retrage avizul şi îşi pierd automat locul de muncă&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Şi mai grav, copiilor, inclusiv celor din clasele primare, li se repetă obsesiv despre “păcat”, “iad” şi “diavoli”, inducîndu-li-se ideea că nerespectarea cu stricteţe a “poruncilor” îi condamnă la “osînda veşnică”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;În acest context, nu este de mirare că unii copii nu pot rezista presiunii psihologice şi clachează. Chiar şi un fost ministru al educaţiei, &lt;b&gt;profesorul de psihologie Mircea Miclea&lt;/b&gt;, afirma că „&lt;i&gt;Modul în care s-a predat religia îi înspăimîntă pe elevi. Am facut terapie şi eu şi alţi colegi de-ai mei cu elevi care erau traumatizaţi că vine diavolul&lt;/i&gt;“.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chiar dacă din punct de vedere strict legal părinţii işi pot, teoretic, retrage copiii de la orele de religie, în lipsa unor instrucţiuni clare de aplicare, această prevedere este dificil de pus în practică la nivelul şcolilor. De cele mai multe ori, orele de religie fiind plasate în mijlocul zilei, administraţiile şcolare ar trebui să poată oferi copiilor care nu participă la Religie alternative educaţionale, lucru pentru care nu sînt, de obicei, pregătite. Mai mult, lipsa unei politici clare în această privinţă deschide calea abuzurilor şi riscului de ostracizare a copiilor în cadrul colectivului şcolar.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Este foarte important ca decizia de nefrecventare a orelor de religie să fie luată doar după o analiză atentă a impactului asupra copilului, ţinîndu-se cont de opinia acestuia şi oferindu-i tot sprijinul moral şi psihologic necesar pentru a putea evita ostracizarea în cadrul şcolii.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Din aceste motive, asociaţia noastră nu recomandă retragerea necondiţionată de la orele de religie. Strategia pe care o recomandăm părinţilor este de a discuta această problemă la nivelul clasei sau a şcolii şi de a solicita retragerea de la orele de religie pentru întregul colectiv al unei clase sau pentru o majoritate a elevilor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pentru evitarea potenţialelor abuzuri împotriva acelor copii care studiază totuşi religia, recomandăm părinţilor acestora:&lt;br /&gt;-  să ceară referinţe despre persoana care predă orele de religie&lt;br /&gt;-  să solicite planurile lecţiilor care urmează a fi predate copiilor&lt;br /&gt;-  să discute periodic cu copilul şi să îi explice de ce la orele de religie i se predau lucruri în contradicţie flagrantă cu cele învăţate la celelalte materii&lt;br /&gt;-  să fie atenţi la apariţia unor modificări radicale de comportament a copiilor (dezvoltarea unor obsesii legate de moarte, de păcat, de iad, tulburări de somn sau de nutriţie, înstrăinare de prieteni etc.) şi, dacă este cazul, să apeleze la consiliere psihologică.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-6893247066029222662?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/6893247066029222662/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/02/stop-indocrinarii-religioase-in-scoli.html#comment-form' title='1 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/6893247066029222662'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/6893247066029222662'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/02/stop-indocrinarii-religioase-in-scoli.html' title='Stop indocrinarii religioase in scoli! - Campanie ASUR'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MnrTudU8BOE/TVPMv1g8eYI/AAAAAAAAB24/RDXtlrpDTQE/s72-c/ursulet.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-111075778026758479</id><published>2011-02-10T11:46:00.002+02:00</published><updated>2011-02-10T14:05:39.133+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Homeopatia: argumente ultradiluate.</title><content type='html'>Acest articol nu imi apartine, el este preluat, tradus si adaptat de pe blogul GWUP, care in traducere inseamna "Societatea pentru Studierea Stiintifica a Pseudostiintelor"&lt;br /&gt;http://blog.gwup.net/2011/02/09/homoopathie-hochverdunnte-argumente/&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Despre homeopatie, pseudostiinta care se bazeaza pe vanzarea de apa chioara, am scris si noi dar exista un ciclu de articole foarte interesant pe &lt;a href="http://insulaindoielii.wordpress.com/"&gt;Insula Indoielii&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In acest articol preiau reactiile la Actiunea 10:23 din Germania, reactii suspect de asemanatoare cu cele din Romania.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;____________________________________________________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prietenii nostrii homeopati sufera vizibil, nefacand fata provocarilor produse de Actiunea 10:23.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mai mult decat sunetul chinuit, cum ca Actiunea 10:23 ar fi mai mult un studiu care demonstreaza cat de sigure sunt preparatele homeopate, produs de Societatea Medicilor Homeopati (ÄHK), nu le-a trecut prin minte.&lt;br /&gt;Acest raspuns este, totusi, mai bun decat cel dat de catre Asociatia germana de homeopatie clasica (VKHD), care intr-o declaratie de presa il aduce ca martor, la modul cel mai serios, pe D-ul Emoto:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Ca vibratiile actioneaza asupra mediului, este demostrat de catre experimentele efectuate de D-ul Masaru Emoto&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dragii nostri membrii ai VKHD, cel care intr-o discutie despre homeopatie pomeneste primul numele lui Masaru Emoto a pierdut si devine ridicol, stiati asta?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Probabil ca este mai amuzant numarul de comedie cu "studiul care demonstreaza siguranta" dar asta nu face decat sa dovedeasca faptul ca prietenii nostri homeopati nici macar nu l-au citit pe Hanemann, asta deoarece in Organon (p. 275) se spune ca:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Potrivirea unui medicament pe o anumita boala nu se bazeaza numai pe indicatia homeopata ci si pe doza necesara sau mai de graba, pe fractiuni cat mai mici ale dozei. Este prescrisa o doza prea puternica a unui preparat homeopat, chiar potrivit pentru boala respectiva, se produce o stare de rau care nu este necesara si care se reflecta asupra vitalitatii, mai ales asupra celor mai sensibile parti ale organismului care deja sunt atacate de boala, in virtutea principiului homeopatic al similitudinii&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Din aceasta perspectiva, pare destul de ciudat cand in &lt;a href="http://derstandard.at/1296696331162/Aktion-1023-Veraechtlichmachung-der-Homoeopathie"&gt;Standard&lt;/a&gt;, Vicepresedintele ÄKH, prof. Michael Frass la intrebarea&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In cadrul Actiunii 10:23 sute de voluntari si-au administrat o supradoza. La ce efecte ar trebui sa se astepte, din punct de vedere homeopat?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a raspuns&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Bineinteles ca la nici un efect, o doza unica la o persoana sanatoasa nu produce reactii decat in cazuri extrem de rare. orice testare a unui medicament pe pacienti sanatosi presupune administrarea mai multor doze. Nu are nici o importanta daca cineva ia 2 sau 500 globulii o data.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nici nu ne mai obosim sa raspunde la aceasta declaratie, avand in vedere ca &lt;a href="http://blog.esowatch.com/?p=2901"&gt;EsoWatch&lt;/a&gt; a raspuns deja &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Oricum e egal ce a sustinut mosul Hanemann pana la geniala lui descoperire a principiului homeopat cum ca fiecare poate abera cum vrea, fara ca cineva sa-i poata strica afacerea. La chestia asta ii spuneti "terapie individuala" si cine ar putea sa va contrazica. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Restul analizei interviului Frassescian din Standard este si el interesant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Negarea unui efect al supradozei si redenumirea ridicola a Actiunii 10:23 in "Safety Study" homeopat este doar o chestie deoarece intr-un comentariu, un fan al bilutelor de zahar scrie:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Apropo, voluntarii ar trebui intrebati ce simptome au dupa 2- 6 zile.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asociatia centrala a medicilor homeopati germani (DZVhÄ) ne-a facut o &lt;a href="http://www.naturheilmagazin.de/newsalternativemedizin/homoeopathische-ueberdosis.html"&gt;contrapropunere&lt;/a&gt;,anume sa&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Luati  o saptamana, de mai multe ori pe zi, catva globulii. Folositi de exemplu Sulfur C30 (deci mult peste limita lui Avogadro). Probabilitatea aparitiei unui sau altui simptom este mult mai mare asa.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Deja avem trei variante:&lt;br /&gt;1. Supradoza unica nu produce nici un efect.&lt;br /&gt;2. Supradoza unica produce efecte dupa 2 pana la 6 zile.&lt;br /&gt;3. Numai in cazul unui tratament indelungat, efectele se vad dupa o saptamana.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dupa principiile homeopate, efectele tratamentelor ar putea fi:&lt;br /&gt;1. Vindecarea rapida fara inrautatirea bolii.&lt;br /&gt;2. O inrautatire a bolii pe o perioada scurta, urmata de vindecarea rapida.&lt;br /&gt;3. O agravare a bolii pe o perioada indelungata, urmata de o vindecare lenta.&lt;br /&gt;4. O agravare a bolii urmata de moartea pacientului.&lt;br /&gt;5. Ameliorarea continua a siptomelor, fara vindecarea bolii.&lt;br /&gt;6. O ameliorare urmata de inrautatirea starii de sanatate.&lt;br /&gt;7. Imbunatatirea pe o perioada scurta a starii de sanatate.&lt;br /&gt;8. Aparitia unor simptome mai vechi&lt;br /&gt;9. Aparitia unor simptome noi.&lt;br /&gt;10. Pacientul "incearca" fiecare remediu prescris. (prezinta simptome specifice fiecarui tratament?)&lt;br /&gt;11. Simptomele duc intr-o directie gresita.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aici trebuie sa-i dam dreptate &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edzard_Ernst"&gt;Prof. Edzard Ernst &lt;/a&gt; critic al homeopatiei, care zilele astea a declarat ca homeopatia are aceeasi legatura cu medicina ca si chitara de aer cu muzica.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In incheiere ar mai exista clipul filmat de catre doi homeopati la Actiunea 10:23 din Berlin, in care spre final se consultau destul de nesiguri despre faptul ca ar putea fi vorba de un studiu neaprobat asupra remediilor (ca medicamente nu pot sa le zic)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe title="YouTube video player" width="300" height="200" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/v-IPshcA1EI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;_____________________________________________________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nu e asa ca reactiile sunt asemanatoare? sperati sa existe diferente intre bizonii romani si cei germani? neeeeeee! in definitiv, daca nu ar fi decontate de casele de sanatate, si platite de catre noi toti, putin mi-ar pasa ca niste indivizi se indoapa cu zahar sperand ca se vor vindeca.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Apropo. Cum gracu' se spune, un globul doua globule sau doi globuli? LOOOL&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-111075778026758479?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/111075778026758479/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/02/homeopatia-argumente-ultradiluate.html#comment-form' title='0 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/111075778026758479'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/111075778026758479'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/02/homeopatia-argumente-ultradiluate.html' title='Homeopatia: argumente ultradiluate.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/v-IPshcA1EI/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-6103092541205712361</id><published>2011-02-08T09:12:00.003+02:00</published><updated>2011-02-08T09:55:58.339+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Wellness trends- chai-yok.</title><content type='html'>Nu prea am mai avut timp sa scriu dar aceasta stire trebuie sa fie facuta publica, pentru ca Romania sa nu ramana in afara trendului mondial.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dragele mele, numai voua vi se adreseaza acest articol, nu ezitati sa dati banii pe ultimul ragnet in materie de wellness si woo woo. Barbatii sa faca bine sa inchida ochii, vorbim de chestii intime.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Baia vaginala cu aburi este o metoda de wellness si tratament coreana ce devine tot mai cunoscuta. Avand in vedere ca e o metoda asiatica veche este si foarte eficienta, normal. Cum am putea noi sa punem in discutie intelepciunea asiaticilor in materie de tratamente aiuriste, pardon naturiste?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sper ca v-am facut curioase si dornice de a incerca pe propriile voastre mucoase aceasta miraculoasa metoda de tratament a hemoroizilor sau a infectiilor vaginale, a durerilor menstruale sau a altor probleme "de jos". Chiar daca nu aveti nimic, este bine de stiut ca aburii trateaza stressul si imbunatatestc fertilitatea. Cel putin asa se lauda cei care vand kiturile minune, ce costa cateva sute de Dolari sau saloanele in care o sedinta de abureala costa cateva zeci de Dolari. Ca idee de afacere, puteti cumpara kitul iar apoi sa va invitati prietenele sa se craceasca pe scaunul dumneavoastra in schimbul unei taxe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OK, in ce consta aceasta metoda. Suntem romance si automat suntem femei practice asa ca nu avem nevoie de sute de Dolari ca sa ne simtim ca niste dive, ci &lt;br /&gt;1. de un scaun vechi caruia ii scoatem perna sau daca e din lemn ii decupam o gaura generoasa.&lt;br /&gt;2. un ligean metalic, sau o galeata metalica. &lt;br /&gt;3. mixtura speciala de ierburi, traditional coreana, poate fi inlocuita cu o mixtura preparata de noi, avand in vedere ca majoritatea plantelor se gasesc in orice supermarket sau chiar pe camp (oregano, busuioc, rosmarin, galbenele, talpa gastei etc). &lt;br /&gt;4. Plantele se fierb, se lasa 5 minute iar apoi "ceaiul" se toarna in ligean.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Acum devine interesant. Ligeanul se aseaza sub scaun, "diva" se craceste pe scaun si asteapta s-o vindece aburul. Daca are noroc, scaunul rezista, iar daca nu are noroc n-o mai vindeca nici dracu'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Imi imaginez saloane pline de femei cracite pe scaune, aceste femei au platit pentru chestia asta din cauza ca este traditionala si coreeana in acelasi timp. Conteaza ca singurul efect al aburului este imbunatatirea temporara a circulatiei sanguine? conteaza faptul ca acelasi rezultat l-ar obtine si facand o baie? normal ca nu, e trendy, e wellness, e traditional coreean.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Succes si incercati sa nu va opariti, daca totusi se intampla sa cadeti in ligean nu este nici o problema, pregatiti o alta mixtura si mai incercati, poate ca aburii vindeca si ranile respective.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-6103092541205712361?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/6103092541205712361/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/02/wellness-trends-chai-yok.html#comment-form' title='7 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/6103092541205712361'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/6103092541205712361'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/02/wellness-trends-chai-yok.html' title='Wellness trends- chai-yok.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-2140844396890788349</id><published>2011-01-24T11:41:00.004+02:00</published><updated>2011-01-24T13:33:59.447+02:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='medicina alternativa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='autism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Homeopatie'/><title type='text'>Intoxicare intelectuala</title><content type='html'>NB: Urmatoarea postare nu are ca scop informarea privind autismul si nici oferirea de alternative privind metoda de tratare a acestei afectiuni!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Autismul&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Numarul copiilor diagnosticati cu aceasta afectiune creste de la an la an, insa multe din diagnostice nu sunt tocmai corecte. Autismul e caracterizat printr-o tulburare a dezvoltarii psihice a copilului, care presupune un comportament atipic, repetitiv, restrictiv si lispsa totala sau partiala a comunicarii atat verbale cat si non-verbale. Nu orice intarziere in dezvoltarea limbajului expresiv al unui copil presupune neaparat ca acesta sufera de autism. Insa eu aici nu doresc sa dezbat nici problema diagnosticarii incorecte sau tarzii a autismului si nici formele pe care aceasta afectiune le imbraca. Nu... Doresc sa dezbat ipocrizia cu care unii oameni sunt atat de bine inzestrati incat iti vine greata.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;De ce ipocrizie? Simplu...Au adus si autismul la stadiu de boala, desi nu este o boala, a carui cauza, desi necunoscuta, se poate trata cu "ajutorul" medicinei alternative. Au transformat autismul intr-o intoxicare, intr-o rezultanta a vaccinarilor obligatorii, intr-o joaca de-a homeopatilor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tratarea unui copil diagnosticat cu austim variaza de la copil la copil, de la gradul de afectare la forma de terapie necesara etc. Terapia cea mai populara este la ora actuala terapia ABA, desi sunt tari in care se aplica pe langa aceasta si terapii complementare de genul PECS, TEACCH, Greenspan etc, dimpreuna cu logopedie, consiliere psihologica si dupa caz tratament medicamentos. Trecand peste terapia comportamentala, as dori sa discut despre terapia medicamentoasa. Pentru ca nu cunosc chiar toata medicatia de care are nevoie un copil autist o sa vorbesc doar despre ceea ce cunosc personal. Asadar medicatia e constituita din antipsihotice( Rispolept), anticonvulsiante( Carbamazepina si derivati) pentru a preveni persoana cu austim sa isi faca rau siesi sau celor din jur, medicatie pentru stimularea dezvoltarii neuronale( Risatarun, Tonotil, Tanakan). Daca cititi prospectele acestor medicamente veti observa ca nu sunt chiar siropele inofensive care se iau asa, dupa ureche.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ce propune dr. Radu Naghiu? Apa cu zahar! Ma scuzati...poate nu am scris suficient de clar...APA  CU ZAHAR! Si contra cost( o consultatie este 150 de ron) si neaparat cu consult inainte. Va invit sa cititi cel mai idiot blog dedicat autismului, cu cea mai sumara forma de prezentare a afectiunii, cu cea mai cretina forma de tratament  www.radunaghiu.ro&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dumnealui apare si in emisiuni televizate si vorbeste cu asa o usurinta privind rezultatele remarcabile pe care le-a obtinut in cadrul terapiei homeopate, incat pentru un om neavizat ai spune ca el a descoperit roata, iar ceilalti medici, autoritati in domeniu, nu vor decat sa iti indoape copilul de pastile si siropuri periculoase si scumpe, transformadu-l in leguma. Nu are certificate rezultatele alea remarcabile, nu a avut un grup de studiu, nu recunoaste ca homeopatie e doar apa cu zahar, ba mai mult o ridica la grad de medicina a viitorului. Propune detoxifierea ca forma de tratament si eliminarea treptata a medicatiei standard cu potiunile lui magice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;De ce sunt atat de virulenta in acest articol? Pentru ca unii copii diagnosticati cu autism au sanse mari de recuperare daca primesc medicatia corespunzatoare si urmeaza terapii care sa ii ajute sa se dezvolte ca individ. Ce pierd acei parinti care merg pe mana tuturor salrlatanilor de acest gen? Nu numai banii, pentru ca sunt ferm convinsa ca domnul dr va recomanda un anume centru pentru terapia ABA, o serie de licori fara efect dar costitsitoare, nu! Acesti parinti arunca la gunoi sansa ca acel copil sa fie functional, sa poata comunica, sa poata crea si sustine relatii cu cel din jur. Daca un adult isi poate pacali creierul atunci cand inghide bilute de zahar ca se face bine, un copil nu are notiunea de efect placebo. Un copil cu autism nu intelege lumea inconjuratoare asa cum o intelege mamica sau taticul lui, el are nevoie sa invete cum sa invete! El nu intelege afectiunea asa cum o intelege un copil normal si nu este in definitiv un copil normal. El se naste autist si moare autist. Oricat de mult a avansat medicina, nici macar nu se cunoaste cauza exacta a autismului, dar oricum nu are la baza nici vaccinarea si nici intoxicarea cu metale grele asa cum sugereaza domnul dr.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nu credeti ca daca era asa de simplu sa tratam orice cu zahar, nu ne-am fi confruntat cu tot felul de neoplazii, sindroame, mutatii genetice, boli care de care mai ciudate si mai rare? Oare daca raspunsul era asa de la indemana, medicina alopata nu si-ar fi gasit justificarea?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pana acum singura medicina care are raspuns in proportie covarsitoare pentru toate afectiunile cunoscute este cea alopata. De ce nu vindeca rugaciunea si dumnezeu amputatiile? De ce nu vindeca homeopatia de cancer? De ce nu vindeca medicina naturista afectiunile coronariene? Evident astea sunt intrebari stupide, la indemana oricui, insa nu oricine si le pune. Pana la urma suntem o natie de superstitiosi prosti care consuma reclama pe paine si nu isi pune nici cele mai elementare intrebari. Am ajuns la concluzia ca un copil de 4 ani e mai destept de multe ori decat adultul care l-a facut; acel copil insira o groaza de " de ce?"-uri ca sa stie ce i se intampla, de ce e mai buna aia decat celalata, de ce e rosu e rosu, de ce ia medicamentul ala etc.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-2140844396890788349?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/2140844396890788349/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/01/intoxicare-intelectuala.html#comment-form' title='14 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/2140844396890788349'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/2140844396890788349'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2011/01/intoxicare-intelectuala.html' title='Intoxicare intelectuala'/><author><name>Dada</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13457864351246955707</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Y9jhReikKcY/S7iKFwj8NoI/AAAAAAAAAAs/2naBJCKDAgI/S220/avatare_cool_avatare%2B(30).gif'/></author><thr:total>14</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-6372682614106713933</id><published>2010-12-11T19:07:00.007+02:00</published><updated>2010-12-11T22:05:46.408+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Obsedatii orto-doxoizi si cenzura.</title><content type='html'>Chiar daca nu mai locuiesc de mult in Romania, si am deja o varsta la care piederile de memorie isi fac incet, incet simtita prezenta, imi aduc aminte de faptul ca romanii aveau simtul umorului; imi aduc aminte de bancurile cu Bula si cu Alinutza care numai sarate si delicate nu erau.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;De la un timp, sub presiunea talibanilor ortodoxoizi, umorul a ajuns sa fie cenzurat pentru ca le raneste sensibilitatea domniilor lor crestine.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Din curiozitate m-am uitat si eu la reclama ce a provocat indignare in randul crediciosilor mult prea orto si foarte docsi, dar oricat m-am chinuit nu am gasit nimic oripilant in reclama RedBull si din aceasta cauza m-am gandit s-o ajut si eu sa scape de cenzura teocratica.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Nici macar nu am incercat sa beau aceasta bautura, poate pentru ca eu sunt agitata de la natura iar dupa litrul de cafea pe care il beau zilnic nu mai am nevoie de "aripi" ci de un ciocan in cap, asa ca nu pot fi acuzata ca as face reclama produsului pe care nu dau doi bani.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Ceea ce este important si foarte grav, este faptul ca o comunitate restransa, chiar si in randul crestinilor din secta ortodoxa, a ajuns sa dicteze ce anume putem vedea la TV si ca CNA-ul a luat imediat pozitia de drepti, indeplinind ordinul catorva frustrati sexual.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Da, domniile lor ortodoxoide care au descoperit ca reclama ar fi avut conotatii sexuale si ca ar fi lezat virginitatea perpetua a evreicei Mariam, nu fac decat sa arate ca mintea lor murdara se gandeste numai la SEX. In reclama nu se face nici un fel de aluzie la SEX, dar obsedatii nu pot scapa de imaginile ce le bantuie prin creier si care le sunt interzise de dogma.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;object width="400" height="300"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/CPWShMKMVkU?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=de_DE"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/CPWShMKMVkU?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=de_DE" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="400" height="300"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-6372682614106713933?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/6372682614106713933/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/12/mintea-murdara-ortodoxioda-si-cenzura.html#comment-form' title='3 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/6372682614106713933'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/6372682614106713933'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/12/mintea-murdara-ortodoxioda-si-cenzura.html' title='Obsedatii orto-doxoizi si cenzura.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-1625625835856360371</id><published>2010-11-29T11:17:00.014+02:00</published><updated>2010-11-30T09:24:52.860+02:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='woo-woo'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='vegatest'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='MoRa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='coltul cu bullshit'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bioenergie'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='biorezonanta'/><title type='text'>Coltul cu bullshit. Biorezonanta.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Asa cum am promis, am sa vorbesc astazi despre biorezonanta.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;In primul rand trebuie sa facem o paranteza, deoarece termenul de biorezonanta magnetica pe care il folosesc tehnomagii Woo-Woo seamana ingrijorator de mult cu cel de rezonanta magnatica nucleara.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;In medicina, rezonanta magnetica nucleara se foloseste de proprietatile fizice ale protonilor si neutronilor pentru a produce o imagine- RMNI. Pe scurt, organismul nostru este compus in proportie de 70% din apa. Fiecare molecula de apa este compusa din doi atomi de Hidrogen si unul de Oxigen. In medicina se foloseste un aparat care produce un camp magnetic foarte puternic, in care este introdus pacientul, si un aparat care scaneaza momentele magnetice ale unora dintre protonii atomilor corpului nostru. Aparatul citeste momentele in care fiecare proton se intoarce la starea de echilibru initiala si transforma aceste date intr-o imagine fidela a corpului pacientului, fara a se folosi de radiatii.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Aparatele sunt uriase, trebuind sa produca un camp electromagnetic suficient de puternic incat sa scaneze o persoana adulta.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.magnet.fsu.edu/education/tutorials/magnetacademy/mri/images/mri-scanner.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 390px; DISPLAY: block; HEIGHT: 300px; CURSOR: pointer" border="0" alt="" src="http://www.magnet.fsu.edu/education/tutorials/magnetacademy/mri/images/mri-scanner.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.magnet.fsu.edu/education/tutorials/magnetacademy/mri/"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;http://www.magnet.fsu.edu/education/tutorials/magnetacademy/mri/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;In anul 2003 Premiul Nobel pentru Medicina a fost acordat lui Paul Lauterbur si Sir Peter Mansfield tocmai pentru descoperirile lor in domeniul imagisticii RM.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Ma rog, aceasta este explicatia ultrasimplificata a tehnicii de imagistica RMN, facuta de o blonda fara mari cunostinte de fizica. Sunt sigura ca se port scrie explicatii mult mai bune, tot ce am vrut sa arat este deosebirea intre tehnica medicala de rezonanta magnetica si cea folosita de catre biorezonanti.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Cu asta, partea stiintifica s-a incheiat!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Ne intoarcem la biorezonantii nostrii care au nevoie de un PC si niste electrozi pentru a produce aceleasi efecte ca si aparatul medical de marimea unui automobil si care, totusi, nu au luat Nobelul pentru descoperirile lor... Cu siguranta, conspiratia reptiliano- masonica i-a impiedicat sa-si publice lucrarile in revistele de specialitate si nu le-a permis sa faca testari dupa metoda stiintifica, dovedind astfel eficacitatea inventiilor lor minunate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Daca e sa ne gandim ca tot ceea ce se bazeaza pe "bioenergie" poate fi masurat cu aparate de "biorezonanta" tehnica este mult mai veche. Evolutia societatii ii obliga si pe alternativi sa se adapteze; asa cum am mai spus, nu mai este suficient sa te duci la o tanti-alternativa care sa-si plimbe mainile prin "aura" dezbarligantdu-ti nodurile, procedeul clasic nu mai este destul de profitabil.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Printre pionierii aparatelor miraculoase de diagnostic si tratament s-a numarat germanul Reinhold Voll care in anii '50 a inventat un aparat ce combina acupunctura cu o tehnica ce folosea impulsul electric pentru a produce un diagnostic. Cativa ani mai tarziu un alt medic german, Schimmel, a perfectionat si simplificat aparatul lui Voll, creand primul model al aparatului Vegatest. Poza apartine unui model mai nou...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.drvolkmer.de/Bilder/vegatest1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 282px; DISPLAY: block; HEIGHT: 214px; CURSOR: hand" border="0" alt="" src="http://www.drvolkmer.de/Bilder/vegatest1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.drvolkmer.de/Bilder/vegatest1.jpg"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:85%;"&gt;www.drvolkmer.de/&lt;wbr&gt;Bilder/vegatest1.jpg&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)" class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Alternativii afirma ca aceste aparate masoara "fluxul electromagnetic al organismului" de pe meridianele acelea din medicina traditionala chineza....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)" class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Defapt aceste aparate masoara doar rezistenta electrica a pielii pacientului. Aparatul emite un impuls electric continuu atat de mic incat nu este simtit, acest curent trece prin cablu si atinge pielea in locul in care este lipit electrodul sau cablul pe care il tine pacientul in mana. Un alt cablu este plimbat de carte alternativ pe piele, in "punctele de acupunctura".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)" class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)" class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Asa cum am invatat la orele de fizica, in scoala generala, omul este un bun conducator de electricitate, el inchizand circuitul intre cele doua cabluri... absolut normal, aparatul va inregistra "ceva". Voss declara ca masuratori cuprinse intere 45- 55 sunt echilibrate, bune. Masuratori peste 55 ar sugera o infectie sau inflamatie a organului testat, iar masuratori sub 45 o degenerare a organului su sistemului respectiv... &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)" class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)" class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Acum, eu inteleg ca sunt blonda, dar nu ar fi normal ca masuratori facute cu un electrod umed sau pe piele umeda sa treaca de fatidicul 55? apoi mai depinde si cat apesi cu sonda respectiva pe pielea "meridianelor"....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)" class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)" class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Multe dintre aparatele de astazi se bazeaza pe acest principiu, avand in vedere ca nu mai este modern ca un ac sa scrie pe o fasie de hartie rezultatele, astazi se folosesc programe de calculator care afisaza pe un monitor cam acelasi lucruri.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR: rgb(0,128,0)" class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;p style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;color:#000000;"&gt;Asa cum am spus si in articolul trecut, tehnica Vegatest a fost demonstrata stiintific ca fiind inutila- nu reuseste sa diagnosticheze nici macar alergii!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;color:#000000;"&gt;In anul 1977, Franz Morell si inginerul Erich Raschebut (TOT nemti!) au inventat un aparat ce contine un circuit electric ce masoara rezistenta pielii, asa s-a nascut Terapia MoRa.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a name="interro"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;MoRa este, si ea, una dintre precursoarele tehnicilor computerizate de descalcire a nodurilor si tratare a bolilor.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 19px" class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.zentrum-med.de/Herrmann/Bilder/Mora1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="TEXT-ALIGN: center; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 250px; DISPLAY: block; HEIGHT: 187px; CURSOR: hand" border="0" alt="" src="http://www.zentrum-med.de/Herrmann/Bilder/Mora1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.zentrum-med.de/Herrmann/Mora.htm"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:85%;"&gt;http://www.zentrum-med.de/Herrmann/Mora.htm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Electrozii sunt atasati in diverse locuri de pe corp, si un aparat citeste raspunsul corpului la impulsurile primite. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Alternativii MoRa pretind ca pot diagnostica o multitudine de boli inchipuite (blocaje energetice si debalansari) precum si boli reale. De fapt tehnica MoRa- minune diagnosticheaza orice!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Absolut toate testele stiintifice facute arata ca aceste aparate nu sunt capabile sa diagnosticheze nici macar boli ale caror manifestari includ modificari ale epidermei; nici macar alergii sau dermatite atopice!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Efficacy trial of bioresonance in children with atopic dermatitis.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; "&gt;&lt;i&gt;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9066509&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: bold; "&gt;Unproven techniques in allergy diagnosis.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; "&gt;&lt;i&gt;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16047707&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;Scientology und die Bioresonanztherapie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; "&gt;&lt;i&gt;http://www.abi-ev.de/pdf/in141103.pdf  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;De ce am acorda acestor aparate si tehnomagilor catre le folosesc, increderea noastra in ceea ce priveste cancerul? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 18px" class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Ce director de spital ar fi atat de nebun incat sa plateasca o multime de bani pentru cumpararea si intretinerea unor aparate de marimea unei camere, care folosesc destul curent electric incat sa poata fi alimentat un sat intreg, atata timp cat un aparat mititel si simplu ar putea pune diagnnostice atat de precise?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal" class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;De fapt, aceste tehnici diagnosticheaza ceva. Ele arata lipsa de incredere in stiinta, lipsa de informare, credulitatea, naivitatea, un portofel plin (diagnosticele sunt destul de scumpe) si vindeca de bani si de viata- uneori total!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal" class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal" class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Cu cat o tehnica este mai neinvaziva, cu cat o tehnica promite mai mult, cu cat un aparat este mai "fara contraindicatii" si un tratament potrivit tuturor, cu atat este mai Woo-Woo! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal" class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/dictionary/woo_woo/"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:85%;"&gt;http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/dictionary/woo_woo/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-1625625835856360371?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/1625625835856360371/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/coltul-cu-bullshit-biorezonanta.html#comment-form' title='0 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/1625625835856360371'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/1625625835856360371'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/coltul-cu-bullshit-biorezonanta.html' title='Coltul cu bullshit. Biorezonanta.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-4904583126302662350</id><published>2010-11-18T09:24:00.005+02:00</published><updated>2010-11-18T12:47:03.497+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Coltul cu bullshit. Bioenergia.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Conceptul de bioenergie este unul cat se poate de stiintific, si se refera energia stocata in diverse materiale, de exemplu in biomasa. Un bioenergetician ar trebui sa fie acea persoana care se ocupa cu "extragerea" acestei energii si folosirea ei pentru producerea energiei electrice sau termice.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Nu despre aceasta bioenergie am sa vorbesc astazi, cuvantul a fost si el violat cu salbaticie de catre diversi vindecatori alternativi si paranormali.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Subiectul este urias deoarece exista sute de terapii bazate pe ideea ca organismele produc un tip de energie subtila si ca sunt conectate la un fel de forta vitala a Universului.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Fie ca vorbim despre suflet, qi, prana, kundalini, aure, campuri, vibratii, energii orgonice etc. toate aceste concepte se bazeaza pe ideea de "bioenergie".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;In timp am sa mai revin cu tipuri de terapii care se bazeaza pe acest principiu, imi este imposibil sa le cuprind pe toate intr-un articol...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Din punct de vedere stiintific acest tip de energie este un nonsens. Exista energie electrica, exista campuri magnetice, exista gravitatie dar ideea de "camp energetic" nu este suficienta. Ce fel de camp energetic? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;In momentul in care un alternativ ne spune ca suntem bolnavi - "campul nostru energetic" este scazut sau dezechilibrat este tot un nonsens.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt; Chiar daca ne simtim lipsiti de energie, acest lucru nu are legatura cu energia corpului nostru. Este foarte adevarat faptul ca noi nu suntem "masini ecologice" si din aceasta cauza pierdem o multime de energie sub forma de caldura. In corpul nostru este stocata energie potentiala sub forma grasimilor. Celulele noastre schimba energie in timpul proceselor metabolice etc dar nu la aceste lucruri se refera bioenergia.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Modul in care este citita si interpretata aceasta "energie" este si el diferit, unii alternativi folosesc palmele, altii au nevoie numai de o fotografie, iar cei moderni- tehnomagii- se folosesc de aparate mai mult sau mai putin complexe. Cuprinsi de pasiune pentru stiinta, tehnomagii moderni au acaparat si fizica cuantica, terapiile moderne promitand modificari la nivel cuantic ale ADN-ului.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Timpurile in care vindecatorii faceau pase peste bolnav si ii descalceau manual nodurile in campul energetic sunt depasite, acum e nevoie de computere, cabluri si elecrozi...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Ce pot vindeca aceste terapii? absolut orice boala. De la infamele dezechilibre energetice si pana la SIDA, totul este posibil. &lt;b&gt;Ideea este extrem de periculoasa, oameni cu boli grave renuntand la tratament in favoarea unui hocus-pocus.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Anii 30 ai secolului trecut au reprezentat momentul de inceput al terapiilor energetice moderne.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Psihoanalistul  Wilhelm Right "descopera" energia orgonica- cea mai puternica forta din Univers. Aceasta forta este atat de puternica incat a supravietuit pana in timpurile noastre, existand si colegii de orgonometrie :) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.orgonomy.org/college.html"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;http://www.orgonomy.org/college.html&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Ce face "orgonul modern"?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; color: rgb(85, 85, 85); "&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;...vindeca viata in toate aspectele ei, este o sursa de energie pozitiva. Relativ necunoscuta, folosirea orgonului este o modalitate naturala si ieftina pentru a contrabalansa efectele dezastruoase ale energiilor artificiale raspandite cu atata usurinta de om. Orgonul neutralizeaza efectele microundelor, ale radiatiilor electromagnetice, ale campurilor magnetice dizarmonioase, ale radiatiilor nucleare emise de centralele atomice.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Exista si "acumulatoare orgonice", ele putand fi construite de oricine.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; color: rgb(85, 85, 85); "&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Dispozitivele orgonice numite HHG pot fi construite de catre oricine foarte usor si sunt ieftine. Necesarul de materiale este urmatorul: o galetusa de plastic in care veti aseza un cilindru de hartie rezistenta, de cel putin 10 cm inaltime (poate fi folosita cu succes o galetusa de iaurt - cautati in orice supermarket), banda adeziva tip "scotch" de 5 cm latime (pentru a preveni scurgerea rasinii din cilindru), 2 cesti de pilitura (razuitura) metalica sau "fulgi" metalici (atelierele de reparatii care lucreaza cu metale sunt pline de astfel de deseuri - span) sau orice alte mici bucatele de metal (cel mai indicat este cuprul), doua cesti de rasina epoxy sau poliesterica si 5 cristale de cuart de 3 - 4 cm fiecare.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.armonianaturii.ro/Dispozitivul-orgonic.html*articleID_532-articol"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;http://www.armonianaturii.ro/Dispozitivul-orgonic.html*articleID_532-articol&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Si totusi orgonul nu este destul de tehnologizat asa incat au fost inventate alte aparate care sa "citeasca energiile" si sa echilibreze finantele alternativilor.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Exista sute de aparate care pot detecta dezechilibre energetice sau prezenta irusului HIV.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;e-Lybra 8 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;detecteaza efectul de biorezonanta intre campul energetic al bolnavului si aprox. 300 mii de remedii posibile. Normal ca nu este nevoie ca bolnavul sa fie prezent in momentul punerii diagnosticului, este suficienta o suvita de par sau o poza. Simplu!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.wds-global.com/news/2009-02-e8EnergyBalancingMeacock.aspx"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;http://www.wds-global.com/news/2009-02-e8EnergyBalancingMeacock.aspx&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;In pagina &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif, serif; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.integratedhealing.to/html/fliera_1.HTM"&gt;QMCI-&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: georgia; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.integratedhealing.to/html/fliera_1.HTM"&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.integratedhealing.to/html/fliera_1.HTM"&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif, serif; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.integratedhealing.to/html/fliera_1.HTM"&gt;The Quantum Medical Consciousness Interface System&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif, serif; font-size: medium; color: rgb(51, 0, 153); font-weight: bold; "&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: georgia; font-size: medium; "&gt; se afirma ca aceasta tehnologie masoara informatia subtila a corpului si  o coreleaza cu mii de indicatori ai sanatatii, cuantificand dezechilibre si localizand "precursori ai bolii", alergii etc cu acuratetea unui computer.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: georgia; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: georgia; font-size: medium; "&gt;Escrocheria a intrat in secolul XXI!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: georgia; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: georgia; font-size: medium; "&gt;Exista putine studii, facute dupa metoda stiintifica, in acest domeniu. Oamenii de stiinta considera afirmatiile atat de fanteziste incat nu se deranjaza sa se verifice...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: georgia; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: georgia; font-size: medium; "&gt;Unul dintre aceste studii a aratat clar ca metoda "electrodermica"  nu poate detecta nici macar alergiile.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: georgia; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-size: 10px; line-height: 13px; "&gt;&lt;p id="p-7" style="margin-top: 2px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-style: initial; font-weight: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; line-height: 1.4em; text-align: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-color: initial; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font: normal normal normal 1.2em/normal arial, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-style: initial; font-weight: 700; font-style: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; line-height: inherit; text-align: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-color: initial; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p id="p-7" style="margin-top: 2px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-style: initial; font-weight: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; line-height: 1.4em; text-align: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-color: initial; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font: normal normal normal 1.2em/normal arial, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-style: initial; font-weight: 700; font-style: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; line-height: inherit; text-align: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-color: initial; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "&gt;Results:&lt;/strong&gt; All the non-atopic participants completed all 3 testing sessions (810 individual tests); 774 (95.5%) of the individual tests conducted on the atopic participants complied with the testing protocol. The results of the electrodermal tests did not correlate with those of the skin prick tests. Electrodermal testing could not distinguish between atopic and non-atopic participants. No operator of the Vegatest device was better than any other, and no single participant's atopic status was consistently correctly diagnosed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id="p-8" style="margin-top: 2px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-style: initial; font-style: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; line-height: 1.4em; text-align: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-color: initial; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font: normal normal normal 1.2em/normal arial, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; line-height: 16px; "&gt;&lt;strong style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-style: initial; font-weight: 700; font-style: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-family: inherit; line-height: inherit; text-align: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-color: initial; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "&gt;Conclusion:&lt;/strong&gt; Electrodermal testing cannot be used to diagnose environmental allergies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bmj.com/content/322/7279/131.full"&gt;http://www.bmj.com/content/322/7279/131.full&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Pericolul major al acestor terapii nu este cel financiar, pierderea unei sume de bani, ci renuntarea la stiinta in favoarea magiei moderne. Din pacate, magia moderna nu este mai breaza decat cea clasica, adica ea nu functioneaza! &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Trebuie sa pricepem ca nu exista medicina alternativa si medicina alopata. 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Bioenergia.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-4406016692831960179</id><published>2010-11-17T22:09:00.003+02:00</published><updated>2010-11-17T22:24:30.574+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Bonus. The Enemies Of Reason by Richard Dawkins</title><content type='html'>Documentarul acesta acopera o mare parte a iratiunii care ne inconjoara.&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   &gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7218293233140975017#"&gt;&lt;embed id="VideoPlayback" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid="-7218293233140975017&amp;amp;hl="de&amp;amp;fs="true" style="width:400px;height:326px" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   &gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   &gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;embed id="VideoPlayback" src="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid="-4720837385783230047&amp;amp;hl="de&amp;amp;fs="true" style="width:400px;height:326px" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   &gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   &gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; "&gt;http://atheistmedia.blogspot.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   &gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; color: rgb(34, 51, 68); font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; "&gt;Daca il are cineva cu subtitrare in romana i-as fi recunoscatoare pentru un link.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(34, 51, 68); line-height: 18px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: rgb(34, 51, 68); line-height: 18px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-4406016692831960179?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/4406016692831960179/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/bonus-enemies-of-reason-by-richard.html#comment-form' title='0 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/4406016692831960179'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/4406016692831960179'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/bonus-enemies-of-reason-by-richard.html' title='Bonus. 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Bach Flower Therapy</title><content type='html'>&lt;blockquote style="font-size: medium; font-family: 'times new roman'; "&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote style="font-size: medium; font-family: 'times new roman'; "&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-family: 'times new roman'; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Avand in vedere ca exista sute de terapii alternative care incep cu litera A si convinsa fiind ca pana le termin pe toate au sa fie inventate alte cateva sute, m-am gandit sa trec la litera  B.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;Despre acupunctura au scris altii, mai destepti ca mine, asa incat nu vad de ce as mai scrie si eu. Tot ce am sa spun depre subiectul acesta este faptul ca nu exista nici o diferenta majora intre acupunctura traditionala si cea falsa, asa incat ii pun rezultatele pe seama efectului placebo. mai multe detalii gasiti in blogul lui Lazy Pawn - &lt;a href="http://lazypawn.com/wordpress/ace-scumpe-din-canada/"&gt;http://lazypawn.com/wordpress/ace-scumpe-din-canada/&lt;/a&gt; .&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Asaaa, sa revenim la "Bach Flower Therapy" sau "terapia cu esente florale a lui Bach".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Ideea a pornit medicul englez Edward Bach in anii '30 ai secolului trecut, acesta afirmandu-si cele cinci idei fundamentale intr-o carte numita   &lt;i&gt;Heal Thyself: An Explanation of the Real Cause and Cure of Disease.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;1. Sufletele sunt scantei invincibile si nemuritoare ale lui Dumnezeu, ele fiind reprezentari reale superioare ale sinelui. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;2. Scopul oamenilor este sa-si dezvolte virtutile si sa desfiinteze tot raul interpersonal. Sufletele stiu cum anume se poate ajunge la perfectiune in natura umana.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;3. Durata vietii reprezinta numai o mica parte a evolutiei individului.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;4. Atunci cand sufletul si personalitatea sunt in armonie oamenii sunt sanatosi si fericiti. Incrcarea personalitatii sa se distanteze de dorintele sufletului fiind radacina bolilor si nefericirii.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;5. Creatorul tuturor lucrurilor este "Iubire" si tot ceea ce oamenii constientizeaza sunt manifestari ale acestui Creator. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Bach sustine ca boala este, dintr-un anumit punct de vedere, o binefacere deoarece este metoda prin care Sufletul incearca sa puna la respect personalitatea.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Tot acest sir de bullshit se numeste "terapie florala" deoarece Bach ar fi primit printr-o revelatie o lista de 38 plante vindecatoare. "Forta vitala" din aceste flori este transmisa energetic in apa si din apa, normal, in oameni...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;In acest lichid este capturata o parte a sufletului florii respective care rezoneaza cu o parte a sufletului uman.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bachflowertherapy.com/"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;http://www.bachflowertherapy.com/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Ideea este similara homeopatiei fara sa fie dependenta de teoria dilutiilor succesive. De asemenea nu se bazeaza pe principiul "efectului similar"- in homeopatie se considera ca o substanta care provoaca la un om sanatos febra poate trata febra etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Ce anume boli trateaza zeama de floricele? ei bine ele trateaza dezechilibre emotionale, stressul, anxietatea etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0.5cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Produsul de top al acestei terapii este  "Bach Rescue Remedy" &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;blockquote style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-align: left; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Whatever the situation – immediate or ongoing - Rescue® Remedy can help. Taken anytime, anywhere Rescue Remedy is totally natural and contains five of the 38 Bach ® Flower Essences: Rock Rose for terror and panic, Impatiens for irritation and impatience, Clematis for inattentiveness, Star of Bethlehem for shock and Cherry Plum for irrational thoughts.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.rescueremedy.com/products/default.asp#remedy"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;http://www.rescueremedy.com/products/default.asp#remedy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Normal ca poate fi luat oricand si oriunde, poate fi bauta chiar si toata sticla, "remediul" fiind apa chioara!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Un studiu facut in 2002 in privinta terapiei Bach a ajuns la concluzia ca nu exista nici un fel de efect superior placebo in acest caz.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12635462"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12635462&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;Sorry. Inainte sa cumparati apa cu urme de floricele ar trebui sa va ganditi la faptul ca acesti bani ar putea fi investiti intr-o carte stiintifica.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-2596806243140291718?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/2596806243140291718/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/coltul-cu-bullshit-bach-flower-therapy.html#comment-form' title='0 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/2596806243140291718'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/2596806243140291718'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/coltul-cu-bullshit-bach-flower-therapy.html' title='Coltul cu bullshit. Bach Flower Therapy'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-2912443550248989861</id><published>2010-11-16T13:08:00.007+02:00</published><updated>2010-11-16T14:29:16.455+02:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ingeri'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='coltul cu bullshit'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Angelic healing'/><title type='text'>Coltul cu bullshit. Angelic healing.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;ATENTIE! Aceasta terapie este bullshit pur, fara nici un fel de baza reala!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Angelic healing, vindecarea cu ajutorul ingerilor, reprezinta orice forma de meditatie, rugaciune sau tehnica de vizualizare in care subiectul incearca sa intre in legatura cu ingerii. Acestia urmeaza sa-l asiste in vindecare, sa-l ghideze sau protejeze.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Hei, nu radeti! exista destui copii maturi care inca mai cred in zane bune si ingerasi... pe seama acestor oameni se fac bani frumosi, din vanzarea de carti, DVD-uri, din participarea la conferite, sedinte de vindecare etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Fiind vorba de ingeri, ne-am putea gandi ca este o forma crestina de medicina alternativa, de fapt ideea a aparut in cadrul miscarii new age, multe dintre tehnicile folosite ne avand nimic in comun cu crestinismul.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Ce propune aceasta metoda de tratament?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Ei bine, se porneste de la premiza ca ceea ce vedem nu este totul si ca ingerii si demonii sunt la fel de reali ca si noi, doar ca ei exista intr-o alta dimensiune la o alta frecventa. &lt;i&gt;OK, pentru noi e un mare rahat de taur, pentru ei este un lucru credibil. &lt;/i&gt;Prin aceste metode de meditatie, rugaciune si vizualizare subiectul intra in legatura cu ingerii si isi gaseste ingerul personal (ingerul pazitor). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Ingerul pazitor il asista pe subiect, il protejaza si ii deschide calea spre cunoasterea metafizica.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Ce putem vindeca cu ajutorul ingerilor? absolut orice boala! ne putem schimba pana si ADN-ul. Nu-i asa ca vreti si voi sa va schimbati ADN-ul? eu una vreau un ADN nou, care sa nu aiba astigmatism!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;As Earth raises its vibration, human beings are being given many opportunities to raise their vibration as well.  One of the golden keys to individual ascension work is DNA Activations to awaken and activate what scientists call the "junk DNA" - which is the DNA strands that they have no clue as to what it does.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;That once you activated these DNA abilities, you could manifest anything you desired in your life, live a life without drama, create your ideal physical body, become immune to all dis-ease, and REVERSE the aging process. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Daca vreti sa va distrati, puteti oricand sa accesati pagina &lt;a href="http://www.spiritualhealing-now.com/dna-activation.html"&gt;Global Health&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;de unde am cules aceste pretioase invataturi &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;lasate de preainteleptul Thoth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;In acest talmes- balmes de cuvinte furate din genetica, care trebuie sa ne convinga de faptul ca indivizii stiu despre ce vorbesc, aflam ca exista o posibilitate de a ne activa ADN-ul asa incat sa devenim practic nemuritori.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Eu ma intreb de ce nu fac acest lucru proponentii acestei terapii, marea majoritate par a fi trecuti deja de mijlocul vietii...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Asa cum am spus in "cuvantul inainte" folosirea unor termeni stiintifici pentru a face "terapia" mai credibila este o tehnica larg intalinita. De asemenea, pentru a maximiza profiturile prin atragerea crestinilor cu placeri ezoterice, numele lui Isus nu trebuie nici el sa lipseasca.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;O alta tehnica este cea Metatronica (&lt;i&gt;NU, nu e mecatronica!&lt;/i&gt;), vindecarea metatronica are la baza o stare de semi hipnoza, in care subiectul este readus in rezonanta cu energiile divine, alternativul "deznodand" nodurile energetice. Eheeee e munca grea!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Exista o multime de vindecatori care fac bani buni de pe seama copiilor maturi cu imaginatie debordanta si fara alte preocupari, Doreen Virtue este o exceptie, ea fiind de pe aceeasi planeta cu proprii clienti... Femeia asta a facut o avere din seminarii in care invata fraierii sa vorbeasca cu ingeri si in acelasi timp e si doctor in psihologie. Nu-i asa ca nu e normal? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 13px; "&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;As a child, Doreen was a natural clairvoyant, seeing and conversing with what many people call “invisible friends.” But this natural gift and ability was little understood by the young Doreen and her family, and was the cause of teasing by her friends. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 13px; "&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;.....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 13px; "&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Today, Doreen is known around the world for her connection with the realm of the angels. She has devoted her lifework to teaching us all how to clearly hear the messages from our angels. “When you work with angels, you can lean upon their light to help you heal at miraculous rates and in amazing ways. The angels can help us heal physically, spiritually, emotionally, and financially.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She conducts experiential workshops on spiritual psychological issues worldwide. Many of her students are medical and psychological professionals, including M.D.’s, R.N.’s, psychologists, and social workers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.angeltherapy.com/about.php"&gt;http://www.angeltherapy.com/about.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Nu e asa ca va doriti o recalificare? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ca sa inchei, vindecarea cu ajutorul ingerilor este o escrocherie si ar trebui tratata ca atare! &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chiar daca aveti bani, de-i intoarceti cu lopata, asemenea tampenii nu merita nici macar o secunda de atentie, ingerii va vor "vindeca" financiar cu siguranta.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-2912443550248989861?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/2912443550248989861/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/coltul-cu-bullshit-angelic-healing.html#comment-form' title='3 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/2912443550248989861'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/2912443550248989861'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/coltul-cu-bullshit-angelic-healing.html' title='Coltul cu bullshit. Angelic healing.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-972145010006491024</id><published>2010-11-15T14:22:00.006+02:00</published><updated>2010-11-15T16:25:43.636+02:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='medicina alternativa'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='coltul cu bullshit'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ayurveda'/><title type='text'>Coltul cu bullshit. Ayurveda.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Terapie cu aroma de Deepak, ayurveda are o istorie de mai bine de 3000 de ani. Ca si in cazul medicinii traditionale chinezesti, si in cazul ayurvedei se porneste de la eroarea de logica cum ca tot ceea ce e vechi e si bun.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Aceste "radacini antice" au fost redescoperite prin anii '80 de catre Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in patru carti indiene antice- Vedele iar Deepak Chopra a adus ayurveda in secolul XXI. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;In aceste carti bolile sunt atribuite demonilor sau influentelor planetelor... Uuuuuuuu, interesant!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Temelia ayurvedei sta in faptul ca functiile corpului sunt reglate de trei principii fiziologice ireductibile sau energii numite doshas, acestea functioneaza impreuna, in diferite proportii, asa aparand diversele tipuri constitutionale si de personalitate. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;In scrierile ayurvedice exista liste uriase cu combinatiile posibile intre aceste 3 energii si rezultatele lor fizice.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Ca un exemplu, Vata (energia aerului, spatiului, vantului) guverneaza acele functii ale corpului care se ocupa de miscare. Amicul Deepak adauga faptul ca percoanele guvernate de Vata sunt atletice si agile si ca iubesc noul. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Cei care au o Vata echilibrata sunt alerti si echilibrati, cu o claritate mentala deosebita. Cei cu vata dezechilibrata sunt anxiosi, sufera de pierderi de greutate, artrita,au tensiune arteriala mare etc. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Ce mai, aveti mare grija sa va echilibrati Vata ca e grav!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Practic, ideea celor care practica ayurveda este ca orice boala porneste de la un dezechilibru intre aceste 3 doshas, iar diagnosticul este de cele mai multe ori pus dupa ascultarea pulsului si dupa completarea unor formulare cu diverse intrebari. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Multi dintre practicantii de ayurveda declara ca prin ascultarea pulsului pot descoperii practic orice boala, de la diabet pana la cancer. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Vai cat de frumos ar fi, nu se mai fac analize de sange, nu se mai fac ecografii, tomografii sau RMN. Tot ce ne trebuie este un medic cu maini calde, care sa ne masoare pulsul! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;OK, suferim de dezechilibrari ingrozitoare ale energiilor, iar vata si pitta sunt la cutite. Ce e de facut?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;In Ayurveda sunt folosite in tratament diverse plante, parti de animale sau minerale. Aici devine periculos... Ayurveda nu este numai o terapie traznita, scrisa de niste hippy! in tratamentul propus pot exista substante cu adevarat periculoase.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Asa cum am mai spus, si am s-o spun de fiecare data, &lt;b&gt;exista si plante otravitoare sau toxice si nu tot ce are floricele dragute este si bun de mancat!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Pe langa combinatiile de plante tratamentul poate contine si produse animale (sa le zicem) cum at fi: oase macinate, pietre "de la vezica", lapte sau grasimi.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Ca o incununare a inteligentei indienilor de acum 3000 de ani, in tratament pot fi incluse si diverse minerale.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Cand am sa mai aud pe cineva ca se dezintoxica cu ayurveda o sa-i dau una in cap!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Printre aceste minerale se afla sulful, arsenicul, plumbul, aurul, mercurul!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Atentie! practica de a introduce minerale in tratament poate fi mortala prin acumularea de metale grele.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Nu exista nici cea mai mica urma de dovada ca aceste 3 umori/ energii ar exista! nu exista nici cea mai mica urma de dovada ca prin luarea pulsului unui necunoscut sau prin completarea unui chestionar ar putea fi pus un diagnostic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Ayurveda este un tip de terapie care nu mai este sustinut nici de medicina moderna din India.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Mare atentie la produsele ayurvedice. Peste 20% dintre ele sunt contaminate cu metale grele.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Nu exista nici o dovada cum ca cineva s-ar fi vindecat de hepatita cronica sau cancer folosind o dieta ayurvedica.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Culmea este ca pana si in Vede este scris ca fiecare ar trebui sa se trateze cu produsele existente la el in zona. Importul produselor indiene din plante, contravine principiilor vedice.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Nu va lasati imbroboditi cu afirmatii de genul "sanatatea tine de optiunea fiecaruia" - bolile nu sunt produse de demoni!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Nu trebuie sa credeti in minciunile de genul "nu a murit nimeni- nu are contraindicatii". Au murit destui oameni din cauza substantelor toxice vadute pe post de medicament!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://whatstheharm.net/ayurvedicmedicine.html"&gt;http://whatstheharm.net/ayurvedicmedicine.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;b&gt;In cazul in care aveti bani de aruncat si va doriti neaparat o "terapie" cu arome indiene refuzati tratamentele care contin minerale!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;a href="http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/292/23/2868"&gt;http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/292/23/2868&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-972145010006491024?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/972145010006491024/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/coltul-cu-bullshit-ayurveda.html#comment-form' title='0 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/972145010006491024'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/972145010006491024'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/coltul-cu-bullshit-ayurveda.html' title='Coltul cu bullshit. Ayurveda.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-3781923583068826214</id><published>2010-11-15T10:17:00.005+02:00</published><updated>2010-11-15T10:57:05.780+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Coltul cu bullshit. Aromoterapia.</title><content type='html'>&lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Nu am sa discut prea mult despre aromoterapie deoarece nici cei care o propun nu o considera ca fiind suficienta sau nu o folosesc exclusiv.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;In aromoterapie sunt folosite uleiuri volatile cu scopul de a infuenta starea psihica sau fizica de sanatate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Fiecare dintre noi ne dorim un ambient placut mirositor (sper) si este foarte adevarat ca mirosurile ne inflenteaza. Mirosul mancarii favorite face ca stomacul sa inceapa sa secrete sucuri gastrice iar mirosul de cadavru ne poate face sa varsam. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Mirosul este poate primul simt pe care si-l insuseste nou nascutul, el isi cunoaste mama si dupa miros, ba chiar au existat cazuri in care nou nascutii au refuzat sanul in momentul in care mama a schimbat deodorantul sau a folosit un parfum.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Metoda este foarte veche, avand in vedere ca plantele aromatice si uleiurile extrase din ele au fost folosite inca din antichitate. Ca terapie alternativa, aromoterapia a revenit in forta la inceputul secolului trecut iar miscarea new age a preluat-o si a readus-o in actualitate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;De la aceste constatari, care nu au nevoie de prea multe explicatii, si pana la pretentiile SF ale celor care folosesc aromoterapia ca pe un tratament este cale lunga.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p align="LEFT" style="font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Prodigioasa putere bactericidã si microbianã proprie esentelor aromatice, se exercitã nu numai în exteriorul organismului, ci si în interiorul sãu. Astfel, esentele de cimbru, lavandã, pin si eucalipt, exercitã actiuni antiseptice mai ales în domeniul aparatului respirator, digestiv si urinar, în timp ce acelea de rozmarin, favorizeazã producerea si evacuarea bilei. Pe de altã parte, ceapa, usturoiul, lãmaia si ienupãrul, împiediã formarea de pietre la nivelul aparatului biliar si renal, în timp ce esentele de lavandã, mãghiran, verbinã, chiparos si anason, exercitã efecte antispasmodice.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-left: 0.13cm; margin-right: 0.13cm; margin-top: 0.26cm; margin-bottom: 0.26cm; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Esenta de lãmaie în anumite concentratii neutralizeazã bacilul tific si stafilococul, în numai 5 minute, iar pe cel difteric în 20 de minute. Efecte stimulante exercitã esentele de busuioc, salvie, pin si rozmarin, iar antifermentative intestinale acelea de ceapã, usturoi, cimbru, mãrar, anason, lãmaie si ienupãr.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Alte esente exercitã actiuni aperitive, afrodisiace, cicatrizante, diuretice, antireumatismale, febrifuge, antitoxice, antivirale ca si de alt gen. Multora din esentele aromatice le este proprie o extraordinarã fortã de difuziune prin structurile organismului. Esentele aromatice nu produc obisnuintã si nu exercitã efecte secundare nocive, proprii multor medicamente de sintezã.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-left: 0.13cm; margin-right: 0.13cm; margin-top: 0.26cm; margin-bottom: 0.26cm; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2; "&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.terapii-naturiste.com/terapii_naturiste/alte_terapii/aromoterapia/aromoterapie.htm"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;http://www.terapii-naturiste.com/terapii_naturiste/alte_terapii/aromoterapia/aromoterapie.htm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Trebuie sa observam demonizarea medicamentelor de sinteza, de parca uleiurile esentiale s-ar gasi in natura impachetate in sticlute inchise la culoare! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Tot ce e "natural" e bun tot ce e "sinteric" e rau :). Nu exista o chimie naturala si una sintetica, si nici o fizica naturala su una sintetica.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Sa nu uitam ca aici este vorba fie de un masaj cu uleiuri esentiale, fie se inhalatii, bai sau pur si simplu de lumanari sau betisoare aromate. Ma intreb cum omoara esentele aromatice de lamaie stafilococii si cum impiedica formarea pietrelor la rinichi?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Astea sunt numai unele dintre pretentiile celor care propun aromoterapia ca tratament. Altii intra si mai adanc in domeniul SF-ului. Deja in momentul in care auzim de chakre si dezechilibre energetice, de vibratii si de molecule care oxigeneaza sangele ar trebui sa fugim in cealalta directie.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Dovezile in favoarea acestui tip de terapie sunt foarte putine. Exista cateva teste facute in institute de psihiatrie iar terapia cu ulei esential de levantica, aplicata pacientilor suferind de dementa, nu a produs rezultate notabile. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h1 class="western" align="LEFT" style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;h1 class="western" align="LEFT" style="font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Lavender oil as a treatment for agitated behaviour in severe dementia: a placebo controlled study&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt; &lt;h4 class="western" align="LEFT" style="font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12143909"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12143909&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Un al doilea studiu, facut tot intr-o clinica psihiatrica si tot pe pacienti cu dementa, folosind uleiuri esentiale de salvie, a produs rezultate incurajatoare.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h1 class="western" align="LEFT" style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;h1 class="western" align="LEFT" style="font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Aromatherapy as a safe and effective treatment for the management of agitation in severe dementia: the results of a double-blind, placebo-controlled trial with Melissa.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/gps.593/abstract;jsessionid=2BFF8A22D5DCEE9984A61145902C9FCB.d01t01"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/gps.593/abstract;jsessionid=2BFF8A22D5DCEE9984A61145902C9FCB.d01t01&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Un alt studiu spune ca uleiul de levantica reduce anxietatea inaintea unor interventii medicale neplacute.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=7494347601516837950&amp;amp;postID=3781923583068826214"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Gastroenterol Nurs.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; 2006 Nov-Dec;29(6):466-71.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h1 class="western" style="line-height: 0.48cm; widows: 2; orphans: 2; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Aromatherapy and reducing preprocedural anxiety: A controlled prospective study.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt; &lt;p style="border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; padding-top: 0cm; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; line-height: 0.48cm; widows: 2; orphans: 2; "&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Muzzarelli%20L%22%5BAuthor%5D"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Muzzarelli L&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Force%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Force M&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22Sebold%20M%22%5BAuthor%5D"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Sebold M&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-weight: normal; line-height: 0.48cm; widows: 2; orphans: 2; "&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Delnor-Community Hospital, Geneva, Illinois 60134, USA. lorie.muzzarelli@delnor.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17273013"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17273013&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Aromoterapia nu este o terapie fara riscuri! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Plantele folosite pot fi toxice, uleiurile pot contine urme de pesticide sau alte impuritati. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pot aparea iritatii ale pielii in momentul in care masajul e facut cu un ulei nediluat.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pot aparea reactii alergice.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pot aparea reactii adverse in cazul interactiunii cu unele medicamente.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Ca sa inchei, nu ne opreste nimeni sa aprindem o lumanare parfumata intr-o seara friguroasa de iarna. De aici la a crede ca parfumul lumanarii ne trateaza de pietre la rinichi este cale lunga.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p align="LEFT" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-3781923583068826214?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/3781923583068826214/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/coltul-cu-bullshit-aromoterapia.html#comment-form' title='4 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/3781923583068826214'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/3781923583068826214'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/coltul-cu-bullshit-aromoterapia.html' title='Coltul cu bullshit. Aromoterapia.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-6586070081013206437</id><published>2010-11-14T14:07:00.008+02:00</published><updated>2010-11-14T16:26:27.130+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Coltul cu bullshit. Terapii alternative- cuvant inainte.</title><content type='html'>Secolul XXI, Germania pe dreapta. &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In timp ce oamenii de stiinta incearca sa descopere secretele Universului exista persoane care inca mai cred ca horoscopul le traseaza destinele si ca Luna le influenteaza deciziile.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In timp ce medicii cerceteaza corpul uman cu aparate de ultima generatie exista persoane care mai cred ca un "vindecator" simte, prin punerea mainilor, boala sau ca poate sa puna un diagnostic privind o fotografie.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Din aceasta cauza m-am gandit sa discut despre cele mai ciudate terapii alternative si cele mai traznite moduri de a face bani de pe spinarea altora, fara sa depui efort prea mare.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Oare de ce sunt atatia oameni care cad in plasa escrocilor? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;1. Ca orice escroc, alternativul este un foarte bun vanzator. El stie sa se joace cu frica bolnavului sau a familiei celui bolnav si le da speranta. In momentul in care a prins un musteriu, alternativul nu ii va mai da pace. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;Este exact aceeasi metoda pe care o practica si vrajitoarele: "Crezi in mine?" - "Da". &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;Gata, ai imbulinat-o! vraja va deveni din ce in ce mai complicata, va costa din ce in ce mai mult si se intra intr-un cerc vicios din care scapi numai atunci cand se termina banii.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;2. Alternativul isi acopera pseudo terapia intr-o cascada de cuvinte furate din medicina sau din alte stiinte. El apare ca fiind mare specialist si geniu neinteles, respins de comunitatea stiintifica din cauza unor interese oculte. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Aici sunt folosite fie conceptele de "big farma" care nu are interesul sa-i recunoasca geniul, fie diverse conspiratii masonico- reptiliene care vor sa depopuleze planeta.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Produsul inventat de el este atat de revolutionar incat poate vindeca toate bolile, din pacate nu este aprobat de organizatiile care se ocupa cu asa ceva din cauza costurilor imense sau a unor conspiratii.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;3. Fin psiholog, alternativul se bazeaza pe curiozitatea innascuta a oamenilor. Dupa ce a vandut prima doza/ sedinta din produsul respectiv clientul trebuie convins ca aceasta terapie functioneaza. Vai dar cat de usor poti manipula pe cineva, sa creda ca se simte sau ca arata mai bine....&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;4. Urmeaza "marturiile" celor vindecati. Vestea se imprastie rapid clientii devenind vanzatori.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;5. Este usor de tratat o boala care nu exista. Alternativii trateaza de multe ori asa numitele "dezechilibre energetice" sau detoxifica sau imbunatatesc imunitatea atc. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Clientul nu e bolnav, el  este doar convins ca daca nu foloseste aceste metode se va imbolnavi. In momentul in care boala nu apare alternativul a castigat, clientul fiind convins ca numai din cauza suplimentului nutritiv sau a terapiei aplicate si-a pastrat sanatatea.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;6. In cazul in care bolnavul nu se vindeca sau moare, alternativul se spala pe maini intr-un mod elegant dand vina pe mediul plin de toxine si intr-un final pe victima care nu a respectat indicatiile sau care nu a avut destula credinta.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Intr-un final, cand escrocheria este descoperita, alternativul pozeaza in victima. El este pionierul intr-un domeniu iar comunitatea stiintifica incearca sa-i distruga munca. Apar iarasi conspiratiile celor care vor sa-l discrediteze. Declara ca si in medicina exista erori si ca stiinta nu are toate raspunsurile. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt; Hei, stiinta nici nu pretinde ca ar avea toate raspunsurile!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Este greu slalomul printre sutele de terapii alternative sau pilule miraculoase iar cei care cad in plasa escrocilor nu sunt mai putin rationali decat altii, disperarea ii face sa incerce orice. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Culmea este ca, o perioada, aceste terapii par sa functioneze. Acest lucru intareste increderea bolnavului si il face sa doreasca sa-si impartaseasca experianta si altora... &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;1. In cazul in care boala nici macar nu exista, este foarte usor sa sugestionezi pe cineva ca se simte mai bine. Aici intra detoxifiantele, vitaminele, suplimentele alimentare, prebioticele, aromoterapia etc.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;2. Boala a intrat in remisie spontana.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;3. Boala s-a vindecat in mod natural.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;4. Efectul placebo e raspunzator pentru o usurare a simptomelor.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;5. Diagnosticul a fost de la inceput incorect.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;6. In acelasi timp cu terapia alternativa, pacientul s-a tratat si cu ajutorul medicinii adevarate.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Este extrem de dificil sa dovedesti cauzalitatea intre respectivul tratament alternativ si presupusa insanatosire. Alternativul nici macar nu isi doreste asta, el fiind multumit sa intareasca sugestia ca datorita lui clientul se simte bine si sa-l faca pe acesta sa imprastie mai departe vestea. Asa se ajunge la marturii, din partea unor oameni de buna credinta, in favoarea unei terapii care nu face nici cat o frectie la un picior de lemn.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Cam atat pentru inceput. Data viitoare incepem cu Aromoterapia!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-6586070081013206437?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/6586070081013206437/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/coltul-cu-bullshit-terapii-alternative.html#comment-form' title='2 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/6586070081013206437'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/6586070081013206437'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/coltul-cu-bullshit-terapii-alternative.html' title='Coltul cu bullshit. Terapii alternative- cuvant inainte.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-6167926790515228157</id><published>2010-11-13T12:54:00.004+02:00</published><updated>2010-11-13T13:52:42.521+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Acum devin eu conspirationista. Televiziunea vrea sa indobitoceasca populatia.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Germania, secolul XXI, spre pranz. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Afara ploua, e frig si bate vantul. Am facut prostia sa citesc programul TV. M-am gandit ca din cele 1600 de canale pe care le am, trebuie sa gasesc ceva interesant.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;OK, am trecut peste cele o suta de canale despre bucatarie, medicina naturista si religie. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Am sarit si peste cele 500 de canale de teleshoping, reclame, porno. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Am ramas cu cateva canale de stiri pe care sunt transmise, ad nauseam,&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt; aceleasi stiri. Merkel a facut, ala a zis, casa de asigurari de sanatate e goala, de la anul platim mai mult, furtuna a facut pagube. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Canalele TV pentru copii au intrat in febra craciunului! mamaaa, daca nu fac astia la reclame... mai multe reclame decat desene animate. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Copiii mei au devenit niste animalute cu lista. Maaamiiii, poti sa-mi cumperi si masina asta? dar pe asta poti? ei, mai bine mi le cumperi pe toate! La fel si fi-mea, vrea si consola dar vrea si o casa noua pentru papusi, vrea si o "pisica electronica" si un robot. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Deja urasc perioada asta a anului, asa ca tai de pe lista si subversivele posturi TV pentru copii!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Pe canalele publice sunt talkshow-uri, aceleasi personaje prafuite discuta despre aceleasi subiecte; integrare, reforma sanatatii, impozite, si mai ales despre cat de bine o duce economia germana. Of!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Aaaa, dar mai avem si canalele nationale private! da, acolo ar trebui sa fie chestii interesante, ca doar ei au bani...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Fiecare canal are cel putin o emisiune despre bucatarie! mai nemancatilor, nu toata lumea adora sa stea la cratita! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Fiecare canal are cel putin o emisiune despre familie/ societate. Familii in criza- divorturi, tradari, teste de paternitate. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Copii in criza ajutati de o super, extra pisiholoaga. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Datornici pe care ii ajuta un nene sa-si plateasca datoriile. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Showuri juridice in care diversi judecatori rezolva cazuri de te apuca rasul. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Vecini certati de zeci de ani care se impaca la TV. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Acum, mai nou, e o emisiune despre ce se intampla in familiile germane care merg in concediu in Bulgaria. Pai cum dracu' sa nu ma intereseze ca o nemtoaica grasa vrea sa faca sex cu omu' ei si ca el nu vrea?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Cum dracu' sa nu ma intereseze ca fermierul Xulescu e virgin la 40 de ani si vrea si el o nevasta? anul trecut, emisiunea asta a degenerat intr-o nebunie nationala din cauza tandreturilor intre o tailandeza si un fermier. Vaaaaai dar a fost atat de romantic incat lumea a asteptat cu sufletul la gura nunta. Cand au dat la TV nunta, Germania a avut orgasm!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Ce mai gasim la TV. Aaaa pai gasim in program o emisiune numita Medium, in care o tanti ne face legatura cu vietile anterioare. Mama ce interesant, Ygreculescu a fost asasinat acum 500 de ani! Bine ca emisiunea asta nu a durat prea mult, a fost atat de proasta incat au scos-o astia din grila.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;Uite asa ma apuca criza de conspirationism, daca n-ar exista cele cateva canale pentru oameni normali, de ex Arte, nici macar nu as avea nevoie de televizor.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-6167926790515228157?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/6167926790515228157/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/acum-devin-eu-conspirationista.html#comment-form' title='0 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/6167926790515228157'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/6167926790515228157'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/acum-devin-eu-conspirationista.html' title='Acum devin eu conspirationista. Televiziunea vrea sa indobitoceasca populatia.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-1927439536540775723</id><published>2010-11-13T09:57:00.003+02:00</published><updated>2010-11-13T10:50:56.336+02:00</updated><title type='text'>Din ciclul "Fiecare tara are conspirationistii ei" - Salvati ceaiul de musetel!</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Germania, Secolul XXI - dimineata, 117000 de oameni au semnat o petitie si au inaintat-o Bundestagului. Petitia pe care presa o numeste "Salvati Musetelul" se refera la dreptul de a comercializa plante medicinale. Ar trebui sa ma uit mai mult la TV, ca uite asa pierd stiri importante, habar nu aveam ca plantele medicinale ar fi interzise mai ales sunt pline rafturile de ceaiuri, tincturi, siropuri etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Ei spun ca din Aprilie anul viitor, Guvernul vrea sa interzica plantele medicinale; cum dracu' sa nu! exact ce o interesaza pe Merkel e sa le distruga digestia delicata interzicand ceaiurile si sa le ia usturoiul sin fripturi...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Ca deobicei, citind regulamentul la care se face referire cu ochi de om normal, se observa doua lucruri.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;In primul rand este o lege din 2004 si care a intrat de mult in vigoare &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, geneva, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; "&gt; &lt;span class="spTextlinkExt"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2004:136:0085:0090:de:PDF"&gt;EU-Richtlinie 2004/24/EG&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt; . In 2011 se trece la ultima faza si anume la inregistrarea producatorilor.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, geneva, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; "&gt;&lt;span class="spTextlinkExt"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, geneva, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; "&gt;&lt;span class="spTextlinkExt"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;In al doilea rand nu se discuta despre interzicere ci despre controlul calitatii produselor din plante. Este reglementat felul in care trebuie facuta colectarea si prelucrarea plantelor, dozajul, ce anume trebuie scris pe prospect, faptul ca producatorii trebuie sa fie inregistrati etc&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px; font-size: small;"&gt;Industria plantelor medicinale este o forta uriasa care ruleaza 1,2 miliarde € /an, aici sunt incluse numai preparatele farmaceutice care se pot cumpara fara reteta din farmacii. La aceasta suma se adauga produsele din plante medicinale din supermaketuri, drogherii, magazine BIO etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; line-height: normal; font-size: 16px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, geneva, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; "&gt;&lt;span class="spTextlinkExt"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "&gt;Chiar nu vad nimic in defavoarea consumatorului, nici macar nu se discuta despre plantele adunate de pe camp in scopul uzului casnic ci numai despre firmele care comercializeaza produse din plante medicinale. Ce e atat de rau sa stim exact ce contine ceaiul pe care il inghitim? ce e atat de rau ca stim ca au fost supus unor teste de calitate? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; line-height: normal; font-size: 16px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 18px; "&gt;Culmea este ca in Gemania standardele de calitate existau si pana la aparitia acestui regulament, nici macar nu ma astept sa existe un producator german care sa-si piarda licenta. Ei trebuie numai sa scrie pe prospect si pe cutie in ce boala ajuta produsul respectiv, ce contine, in ce doza, care ii sunt efectele secundare, care este dozajul maxim etc. Chestii normale!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; line-height: normal; font-size: 16px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 18px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; line-height: normal; font-size: 16px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 18px; "&gt;Industia "musetel" poate avea o problema in cazul in care nu poate sa dovedeasca faptul ca, de exemplu, ceaiul de matura face bine la cataracta. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; line-height: normal; font-size: 16px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 18px; "&gt;De anul viitor, toate produsele farmaceutice care pot fi luate fara reteta si fara recomandarea unui medic trebuie sa-si dovedeasca eficacitatea si faptul ca nu fac mai mult rau decat bine. Nu se cer studii complicate, ca in cazul medicamentelor, se cere ca eficacitatea unui produs sa fie probata prin faptul ca traditional el a fost folosit pt. afectiunea X si ca in timp s-a constatat ca ajuta. Traditional inseamna sa fie folosit de mai mult de 30 de ani din care 15 ani sa fi existat pe teritoriul EU.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; line-height: normal; font-size: 16px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 18px; "&gt;Deci Musetelul poate sta linistit!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; line-height: normal; font-size: 16px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 18px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; line-height: normal; font-size: 16px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 18px; "&gt;In privinta usturoiului, scortisoarei, mentei etc nici nu se pune problema unei reglementari... ele au sa poata fii cumparate, ca si pana acum, producatorii nefiind obligati sa stampileze cateii de usturoi cu doza maxima permisa.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; line-height: normal; font-size: 16px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 18px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; line-height: normal; font-size: 16px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 18px; "&gt;Toata aceasta nebunie a ponit de la un chain email  si culmea e ca Bundestagul nici macar nu poate schimba ceva. Petitia ar fi trebuit adresata EU. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; line-height: normal; font-size: 16px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 18px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; line-height: normal; font-size: 16px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 18px; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; "&gt;&lt;span class="spTextlinkExt"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-1927439536540775723?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/1927439536540775723/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/din-ciclul-fiecare-tara-are.html#comment-form' title='2 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/1927439536540775723'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/1927439536540775723'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/din-ciclul-fiecare-tara-are.html' title='Din ciclul &quot;Fiecare tara are conspirationistii ei&quot; - Salvati ceaiul de musetel!'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-8838632043184126738</id><published>2010-11-10T09:14:00.004+02:00</published><updated>2010-11-10T19:51:46.110+02:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='conspiratii'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='vaccinuri'/><title type='text'>Cui ii e teama de vaccin?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pe blogul lui TLP, intr-un aricol despre vaccinuri, cineva care se considera o persoana rationala afirma:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); line-height: 16px; "&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Comparativ cu beneficiile èe care le aduc?hai sa fim seriosi....n-a murit nimeni de vreo boala a copilariei,iar inocularea in fluxul sangvin al bombei chimice din vaccin nu poate decat debilita sistemul imunitar si asa precar al copiilor.Deci-nu multumesc...si nu sunt nici habotnica ,din contra,...doar ma stii...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); line-height: 16px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); line-height: 16px; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tlp.ro/2010/11/vaccinuri-vs-deces-corelatie-vs.html"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;http://www.tlp.ro/2010/11/vaccinuri-vs-deces-corelatie-vs.html&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Aceasta afirmatie mi se pare extrem de periculoasa, mai ales pentru ca vine din gura unei mame care se considera informata si rationala.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;1. Vaccinurile nu acopera numai asa zisele "boli ale copilariei" ci si o multime de alte boli extrem de grave.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;2. Bolile copilariei nu sunt inofensive.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Hai sa vedem care sunt vaccinurile obligatorii  si care sunt bolile impotriva carora sunt facute.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;In Romania sunt obligatorii:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;1. Vaccinul impotriva Hepatitei B&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Hepatita tip B nu este o boala a copilariei ci o boala infectioasa a ficatului, ce se cronicizeaza in 10% din cazuri.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Vaccinul contine proteine specifice virusului- HBsAg. Noile tipuri de vaccin nu mai sunt fabricate din plasma persoanelor bolnave si produse in laborator prin metode moderne de recombinare ADN.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;2. Vacinul BCG- impotriva tuberculozei&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Tuberculoza nu este o boala a copilariei ci o boala infectioasa grava care ataca de obicei plamanii. Tratamentul este complex si de lunga durata.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;El protejaza in proportie de 80% impotriva meningitei tuberculoase la copii, complicatie cu urmari extrem de grave.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.romedic.ro/tuberculoza-pulmonara/prevenire"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;http://www.romedic.ro/tuberculoza-pulmonara/prevenire&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Protectia impotriva TBC la adulti este variabila si discutabila, din aceasta cauza in multe tari nu se face BCG.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;3. Vaccinul DTP- difterie, tetanos, pertussis.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Difteria este o boala infecioasa grava a cailor respiratorii, produsa de toxina difterica a Corynebacterium diphtheriae. Aceasta toxina poate afecta miocardul (muschiul inimii) si se poate complica in pneumonie, insuficienta renala, encefalita, embolie pulmonara etc&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Rata de mortalitate la copiii sub 5 ani este de 20%!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Tetanosul este o boala infectioasa necontagioasa, produsa de bacilul tetanic, toxinele acestui bacil &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "&gt;afectand sistemul nervos.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Bacilul tetanic este rezistent la fierbere si foarte raspandit in sol. Rata de mortalitate medie ajunge la 45%.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Neonatal_tetanus_6374.jpg/800px-Neonatal_tetanus_6374.jpg"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Pertussis (tusea magareasca) este o boala extrem de contagioasa produsa de bacteria Bordetella pertussis&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;. Ea se poate complica in pneumonie, encefalopatie etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Infectia la nou nascuti este de multe ori mortala, imunitatea de turma fiind singura lor protectie impotriva bolii.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;In Statele Unite, Canada si Australia, campaniile irationalilor impotriva vaccinurilor au dus la reaparitia epidemiilor de tuse convulsiva, imunitatea de turma nu mai exista si au inceput sa apara cazuri de pertussis la nou nascuti.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://danamccaffery.com/"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "&gt;http://danamccaffery.com/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Aceasta pagina este creata in memoria Danei Elizabeth. Ea a murit la 4 saptamani din cauza ca alti copii nu au fost vaccinati. Ea a murit inainte sa poata fi vaccinata, deoarece efectul de turma a fost distrus de inconstienti!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" &gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Vaccinul DTP este  contestat de catre conspirationisti cu toate ca reactii adverse severe apar in aprox.&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;10 cazuri la un milion. In noile tipuri de vaccin nu mai exista material celular al  bacteriei ce produce pertussis asa ca reactiile adverse sunt si mai rare.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Thimerosalul (Thiomersal) este un component pe baza de mercur, mult discutat si disputat, dar care i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;n vaccinurile pediatrice de ultima generatie nu mai este folosit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;NU a fost demonstrata nici o legatura intre Thimerosal si autism. Autismul este o boala cu substrat genetic!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;4. VPI- vaccinul anti poliomielitic&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 19px; "&gt;Poliomielita este o boala pt care NU exista tratament. Poliomielita este o boala virala extrem de grava care afecteaza sistemul nervos si care poate duce la paralizie. Mortalitatea ajunge la 5% la copii si la 30 % la adulti; o moarte lenta, chinuitoare, prin asfixie.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Vacinul produce imunitate la toate cele 3 variante ale virusului.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;5. Hib- vaccinul impotriva Haemophilius influenzae tip B&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Aceasta bacterie este rezistenta la antibiotice si este raspunzatoare pentru aparitia meningitei infectioase acute la copii.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Eficacitatea vaccinului este de 95%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;6. ROR- vaccinul rujeolic, urilian si rubeolic&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Este contestat deoarece se considera ca aceste boli sunt inevitabile si blande. De fapt aceste 3 boli sunt singurele adevarate "boli ale copilariei" incluse in programul de vaccinare, si nu sunt nici de neevitat si nici blande!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Rujeola este o boala infectioasa contagioasa, cu febra care poate ajunge la 40 de grade si complicatii grave cum ar fi pneumonia sau encefalita.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Rata de mortalitate in tarile dezvoltate este de 3 la mie iar in tarile sarace ajunge la 25%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;In cazul aparitiei complicatiilor mortalitatea ramane ridicata chiar si in tarile dezvoltate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Oreionul este o boala infectioasa care afecteaza de cele mai multe ori glandele parotide si uneori testicolele. Normal ca baietii pot fi mai grav afectati de boala, aceasta putand duce la sterilitate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Rubeola (pojarelul) este singura boala a copilariei cu adevarat blanda. Vaccinarea se face pentru a preveni o posibila rubeola congenitala.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Gravidele neimunizate, care se imbolnavesc in primele luni de sarcina, risca sa dea nastere unor copii cu malformatii grave ale ochilor, sistemului auditiv, sistemului cardiorespirator si sistemului nervos.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Vaccinul ROR este si el extrem de contestat tot din cauza unor presupuse legaturi cu autismul.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: small; line-height: 19px; "&gt;"Studiul" facut de &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; "&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield"&gt;Andrew Wakefield&lt;/a&gt; pe 12 copii&lt;/b&gt; a fost considerat a fi fals si iresponsabil, si inca o data:  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;AUTISMUL ESTE O BOALA CU SUBNSTRAT GENETIC!!!!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Eu zic merci ca m-am nascut intr-o perioada in care sanatatea nu este lasata la voia imunitatii proprii, si multumesc medicilor epidemiologi si virusologi care au invins variola (boala extrem de grava si considerata ca fiind eradicata) care au invins poliomielita (boala extrem de grava, mutilanta, dar care reapare din cauza inconstientei unora). Multumesc si medicilor care cauta un vaccin impotriva HIV sau a cancerului. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;Multumesc medicilor care incearca sa ne imbunatateasca viata, care cauta noi solutii impotriva bolilor, care muncesc in medii nu tocmai lipsite de riscuri.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;Copiii mei sunt vaccinati, eu nu vreau sa fiu responsabila pentru moartea altora. Nu-mi doresc sa stiu ca din cauza inconstientei mele un om cu imunitate slaba (nou nascut, batran, bolav) a avut de suferit.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;In privinta imunitatii prefer sa stau in turma!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-8838632043184126738?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/8838632043184126738/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/cui-ii-e-teama-de-vaccin.html#comment-form' title='8 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/8838632043184126738'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/8838632043184126738'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/11/cui-ii-e-teama-de-vaccin.html' title='Cui ii e teama de vaccin?'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-4748941133776318807</id><published>2010-07-27T18:52:00.000+03:00</published><updated>2010-07-27T18:53:04.678+03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Botez'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Homeopatie'/><title type='text'>Viziunea raţională asupra botezului la copii</title><content type='html'>Din postul lui Silviu, &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://gaudisilviu.blogspot.com/2010/07/bebelusii-se-pot-ineca.html"&gt;Bebelusii se pot ineca?&lt;/a&gt;, aflăm opinia unui medic pediatru pentru care jurământul lui Hipocrat înseamnă mai mult decât tabu-urile unei societăţi închise şi superstiţioase:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Un medic pediatru a lasat un comentariu pe &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.realitatea.net/un-bebelus-din-r-moldova-a-murit-inecat-in-urma-botezului-vezi-video_724978.html"&gt;realitatea.net&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Modalitatea  de botez la ortodocsi este periculoasa pentru sugari. Sfatuiesc preotii  sa amane cit mai mult botezul (cam pe la 1 an macar) si sa puna macar o  singura intrebare parintilor inainte de botez: SE INTIMPLA CA BEBELUSUL  DUMNEAVOASTRA SA AIBE PAUZE RESPIRATORII IN TIMPUL SOMNULUI? Fff multi  bebelusi au APNEE DE SOMN, mai ales in primele luni de viata si daca  sunt PREMATURI, DISTROFICI, daca AU AVUT CIRCULARA DE CORDON LA NASTERE,  daca AU FOST REANIMATI LA NASTERE, sa se intereseze de SCORUL APGAR  (iar daca este mai mic de 7 sa amine botezul dupa 1 an), daca in prezent  AU VREO AFECTIUNE INTERCURENTA. Biserica Ortodoxa ar trebui sa  reviziuasca si unele manevre pe care le fac preotii la IMPARTASANIE ( a  se interzice a se folosi aceeasi lingurita). De asemeni trebuie cerut  acordul scris al medicului de familie. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;PS: Propun ca preotii sa faca cursuri de resuscitare cardiorespiratorie.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;A se compara atitudinea lui practică cu tonul defensiv al unui homeopat, citat de ziarul Adevărul:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Iata ce scrie &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.adevarul.ro/societate/viata/Copilul_mort_la_botez-cel_mai_probabil_bolnav_0_305369993.html"&gt;adevarul.ro&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Copiii,  mai ales sub vârsta de un an, au un mecanism de apărare atunci când  sunt scufundaţi în apă, care îi împiedică să se înece, potrivit  medicului pediatru Adrian Dumitrescu. „La câteva luni, bebeluşii au  capacitatea spontană de a nu mai respira atunci când sunt sub apă,  aşadar este greu de crezut că s-ar putea îneca în timpul unui botez",  explică specialistul. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;„Cel mai probabil,  bebeluşul care a murit după botez avea o afecţiune de care părinţii nu  au ştiut şi care, din nefericire, s-a manifestat sau s-a agravat în  momentul botezului", încheie medicul Adrian Dumitrescu.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Specialistul  lu' peste. Cine este acest Adrian Dumitrescu? Dr. Adrian Dumitrescu  este Medic-lector homeopatie, specialist pediatrie şi Vicepreşedinte al  Societăţii Române de Homeopatie. Ajunge? Are rost sa il contrazicem? Un  adevarat medic pediatru ar trebui sa atentioneze parintii fata de  riscurile la care sunt supusi bebelusii in timpul botezului. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-4748941133776318807?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/4748941133776318807/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/07/viziunea-rationala-asupra-botezului-la.html#comment-form' title='3 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/4748941133776318807'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/4748941133776318807'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/07/viziunea-rationala-asupra-botezului-la.html' title='Viziunea raţională asupra botezului la copii'/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-8054991862667793609</id><published>2010-07-16T17:31:00.004+03:00</published><updated>2010-07-16T21:20:43.591+03:00</updated><title type='text'>Pe principiul "ce rau poate sa faca?"</title><content type='html'>Pentru ca s-a discutat mult despre detoxifieri si tratamente de intarit poarta sistemului imunitar si pentru ca multi adepti ai celor doua practici merg pe principiul "ce rau poate sa faca, ca doar e natural?" iata cateva exemple de "rau":&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;APA&lt;br /&gt;Prea putina-deshidratare, prea multa-hiperhidratare&lt;br /&gt;Deshidratarea apare atunci corpul nu are suficienta apa si fluide.  Cauzele sunt pierderea excesiva de fluide, consumul insuficient sau  ambele mecanisme intricate. Cei mai susceptibili la efectele  deshidratarii sunt copiii, datorita greutatii corporale mai mici,  batranii si bolnavii. Poate fi usoara, moderata sau severa si poate duce in decurs de cateva zile la deces.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hiperhidratarea e reprezentata de consumul unei cantitati prea mari de apa intr-un timp scurt si  rezulta prin diluarea sodiului, hiponatriemie.  Intoxicatia cu apa e intalnita cel mai frecvent la copiii cu varsta sub  sase luni si uneori la sportivi. Intoxicatia cu apa si hiponatriemia  apar atunci cand o persoana deshidratata bea prea multa apa fara  electroliti si nu apare daca aportul de apa se face progresiv.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;E apa, curge la robinet, o poti cumpara si imbuteliata, e perfect naturala(asta daca o preferi pe aia de la put direct) si cu toate astea te omoara.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;LEUSTEANUL&lt;br /&gt;E natural, e folosit in ciorbe, unii zic ca-i bun expectorant in cazul afectiunilor bronsice, insa daca e folosit in sarcina spre exemplu poate provoca( asa am aflat si eu) contractii premature si chipurile inainte se folosea ca stimulent in travaliu.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;TATANEASA&lt;br /&gt;Formula As o lauda ca pe planta minune, care vindeca rani si diminueaza sau chiar duce la disparitia tumorilor. Contine alantoina, motiv pentru care este folosita in industria farmaceutica pentru diverse creme. Folosita pentru uz extern si intern. Aceesi fituica(Formula As ) ofera si retete pentru prepararea de decocturi si alte potiuni cu tataneasa, desi ultimele studii de laborator au demonstrat ca din cauza alcaloizilor pirolizidinici planta este foarte toxica pentru organism afectand in principal ficatul si se suspecteaza chiar ca ar produce cancer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;DULCEATA DE NUCI VERZI&lt;br /&gt;Mai toate gospodinele din tara asta minunata fac dulceata de nuci verzi si e un deliciu, insa, oricat de bio si eco si natural ar fi preparata, nucile verzi sunt toxice pentru organism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;MARUL LUPULUI&lt;br /&gt;Site-urile naturiste sunt pline de retete care contin aceasta planta. E laudata ca fiind un inamic impotriva cancerului de colon. E bine e o planta foarte toxica datorita acidului aristolochic pe care il contine&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;strong style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;LIMBA MIELULUI&lt;br /&gt;Unii terapeuti naturisti recomanda consumul a 2-3 cani de ceai obtinut din aceasta planta pe zi. E buna chipurile pentru raceli, gripe, tuse siiiii...preferata mea curata sangele. Nu-i asa ca-i minunat?&lt;br /&gt;Ei bine e toxica!! La fel de toxica ca si tataneasa si marul lupului si altele. E posibil cariogena si in mod cert hepatotoxica.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NAVALNIC&lt;br /&gt;Lista afectiunilor pentru care este uilizata e destul de vasta de la diaree la obstructie intestinala, de la afectiuni renale la tuse si de la febra, rani si eczeme la afectiuni biliare si hepatice. Ai zice ca daca bei 2 cani de ceai e ca si cum l-ai prinde pe Dumnezeu de un picior. Dar, stai! Cate picioare are Dumnezeu? Daca bea toata familia mea o data?&lt;br /&gt;Dar din pacate si planta asta e navalnica...ah! scuzele de rigoare, toxica!! Pentru ca ea contine antivitamine B si componente posibil cariogene si nu e indicata in nici un caz pentru consumul uman.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;MATRAGUNA&lt;br /&gt;Simpatica planta nu-i asa? Ei bine homeopatii o prescriu, cu dilutiile lor cu tot, pentru febra, dureri de cap, dureri pre si post-mentruale, dureri de gat, cistita etc. Eu o recomand ca otrava. E o planta extrem de toxica si chiar daca inainte era folosita pentru disconfortul intestinal, acum nu mai este. De ce? Ei bine au murit cativa. In tara noastra a existat un adevarat cult pentru aceasta planta, ea avand beneficiul de a fi numita sfanta si chiar era pusa la icoane si la pragul bisericii. Avea intrebuintari multiple , chiar era un bun halucinogen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;TURTA LUPULUI&lt;br /&gt;Tot homeopatii o prescriu pentru dureri de cap, desi e foarte toxica. Dar daca e din natura si are un impact deosebit asupra memoriei apei...E asa de greu sa rezisti sa nu o utilizezi. Eu o recomand tot ca otrava, deoarece contine stricnina si poate provoaca moartea. Totusi unii naturisti o prescriu ca stimulator al sistemului nervos central si in  tratamentul paraliziilor  locomotorii. De asemenea, se utilizeaza des in  diferite afectiuni  oculare si ale analizatorului auditiv, ca tonifiant in cazul  atoniilor  gastrice, pentru imbunatatirea poftei de mancare si oboseala. Cred ca in special oboseala si prostia o comabate cu siguranta.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;DEGETELUL&lt;br /&gt;E o planta perena, din familia Digitalis care chipurile ar fi un cardiotonic si cred si eu, mai ales ca pana si simpla atingere a plantei poate provoca intoxicatii serioase.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In cultura romaneasca plante toxice folosite ca plante de leac mai sunt odoleanul, macul, cucuta, talpa-gastei, ciumafaia, maselarita, cananbis indica(care creste de muuuulti multi ani pe campurile noastre),  ciupercile halucinogene si multe altele.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ideea pe care am vrut sa o evidentiez aici este ca si medicina aia sigura, naturala, eco, bio, poate sa faca rau. De amintit este si faptul ca inainte, adica pe la sfarsitul anilor '70, 1870(ce credeati?) a aparut un studiu a lui Simeon Mangiuca in care clasifica plantele in cinci mari categorii: mitologice, de descantec, de vraji, de leacuri, poetice. Principiul pe care se mergea pentru testarea unei plante necunoscute, in acea vreme, era principiul popular care suna cam asa"ori te vindeca, ori te omoara". Nu tot ceea ce este natural e neaparat bun si daca e bun pentru tine nu e neaparat bun pentru toata lumea.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In cazul unor afectiuni severe si nu numai, tratamentul adecvat nu poate fi prescris decat de catre un medic de medicina alopata. Poate exista povesti pe net in care unii si altii indeamna la adoptarea unui anume regim, unui anume tratament, insa fiecare om e unic. Atunci cand nu exista studii care sa demonstreze indubitabil caracteristicile vindecatoare ale unei anume plante sau a unui anume medicament homeopat, este ca atunci cand mergi pe un teren minat. Nu exista nici o conspiratie a industriei farmaceutice si nici masoni si iluminati si ce alte aberatii am mai auzit. Exista doar naivitate, prostie si inconstienta.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-8054991862667793609?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/8054991862667793609/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/07/pe-principiul-ce-rau-poate-sa-faca.html#comment-form' title='9 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/8054991862667793609'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/8054991862667793609'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/07/pe-principiul-ce-rau-poate-sa-faca.html' title='Pe principiul &quot;ce rau poate sa faca?&quot;'/><author><name>Dada</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13457864351246955707</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Y9jhReikKcY/S7iKFwj8NoI/AAAAAAAAAAs/2naBJCKDAgI/S220/avatare_cool_avatare%2B(30).gif'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-7935164775728696706</id><published>2010-07-13T08:42:00.008+03:00</published><updated>2010-07-13T14:44:13.417+03:00</updated><title type='text'>Detox Fever.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Organismul nostru este oglinda a ceea ce mancam ( bem, fumam) si a mediului in care traim. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Nimeni cu contesta faptul ca in procesul digestiei sau in cazul expunerii la diverse noxe in organism se acumuleaza substante chimice toxice. In mod normal corpul uman are resurse suficiente pentru a elimina aceste reziduuri. Ficatul si rinichii sunt uzine chimice, avand &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;rolul de a elimina toxinele pe care noi le inghitim voluntar sau involuntar  si pe care le producem in timpul diverselor reactii chimice care au loc in organism.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;In mod normal, cand vorbim de o cura de dezintoxicare, ne referim la un tratament medical facut celor intoxicati cu alcool sau droguri sau a otravitilor, iradiatilor etc. Mai nou medicina alternativa ofera tot felul de produse care promit dezintoxicarea folosind tot felul de pastile, ceaiuri, plasturi, diete etc. De fapt ei au furat acest cuvand din medicina, unde dezintoxicarea este un procedeu efectuat sub atenta observatie medicala.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Alternativii &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;au raspunsul! ei au o solutie!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="  border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 15px; "&gt;&lt;div   style="text-align: center; font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica;font-size:11px;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 14px; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 33px; resize: none; "&gt;&lt;b style="font-weight: bold; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 33px; resize: none;  font-weight: bold;  "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 33px; resize: none;  font-weight: bold;  "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 33px; resize: none;  font-weight: bold;  "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 44px; resize: none;  font-weight: bold; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#009900;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;XXXXPlasture&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p style="line-height: 15px; resize: none; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.21cm; margin-left: 0px; text-align: center; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 13px; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 33px; resize: none; "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 23px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#009900;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;"Dezintoxica si curata organismul de metale grele in somn"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 33px; resize: none;   "&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 23px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://shop.strato.de/WebRoot/Store20/Shops/17127571/MediaGallery/Detox_Foot_Patches.jpg" style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 300px; height: 255px;" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Interesant nu? Cum extrage acest plasture metale grele in timpul somnului? Mister! Ceea ce spune producatorul e ca foloseste medicina chineza si ca actioneaza asupra punctelor de acupunctura, a meridianelor energetice si a Qi ului. LOL&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Aceste hartiute miraculoase, pe langa faptul ca costa o poala de bani, actioneaza concomitent asupra:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;- intregului organism ajutand la dezintoxicare si slabire&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;- elimina metale grele si alte otravuri greu metabolizabile&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;- regleaza nivelul colesterolului si presiunea arteriala&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;- curata sangele si intareste sistemul imunitar &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#FF0000;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;(:D v-am spus eu...)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;- actioneaza asupra reumatismului, artritei, durerilor de incheieturi etc&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;- actioneaza asupra tractului gastro- intestinal&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;- imbunatateste circulatia sangelui&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Hei, eu sunt absolut de acord cu faptul ca eliminam toxine nu numai prin urina si fecale ci si prin epiderma, dar chiar asa? Mi-ar placea sa vad un studiu stiintific asupra eficacitatii plastrelui buclucas. Pana una alta macar nu face rau in afara faptului ca goleste buzunarele...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Alte metode alternative de detoxifiere fac si rau fizic nu numai la buzunar.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Multe dintre curele de dezintoxicare recomanda o combinatie de pastile, ceaiuri, clisme :P etc si cresterea cantitatii de apa bauta, chestie care ar ajuta la eliminarea toxinelor. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Marea majoritate a medicilor recomanda persoanelor mature o cantitate de 1,5- 2 L de lichid/ zi, si e normal ca aceasta cantitate trebuie corelata si cu greutatea,  cu varsta si cu sexul persoanei respective.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt; De ce nu recomanda medicii 5-10 litrii de apa pe zi de ce nu "fara numar"? pentru ca in momentul in care o persoana bea o cantitate foarte mare de apa se poate intoxica. Intoxicatia cu apa se numeste hiponatremie si sub aceasta denumire se ascunde un dezechilibru electrolitic ce poate avea urmari catastrofale.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;In 2008, o englezoaca a castigat in instanta o despagubire de 800.000 de Lire, dupa ce a suferit daune cerebrale ireversibile din cauza unei "diete hidratante miraculoase" care ii promisese printre altele si detoxifierea organismului.  Ei i s-a recomandat( printre altele)  sa bea 8 cani de apa in plus si sa reduca sarea. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7520756.stm"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7520756.stm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Cred ca orice medic cu creier ar recomanda sa bei lichide atat cat ai nevoie si nici un strop mai mult. Organismul iti spune cand are nevoie de apa; atunci cand iti este sete trebuie sa bei lichide iar orice este peste nu este neaparat necesar ba chiar este daunator.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;BBC are un articol interesant: &lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7521137.stm"&gt;"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style=" border-collapse: collapse; font-weight: 800; line-height: 14px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7521137.stm"&gt;The dangers of too much detox"&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;in care sunt demascate tocmai aceste practici in care se recomanda cantitati uriase de apa.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style=" border-collapse: collapse; font-weight: 800; line-height: 14px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style=" border-collapse: collapse; font-weight: 800; line-height: 14px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Pana una alta nici un studiu nu a demonstrat faptul ca este folositor sa ne dezintoxicam (daca nu suntem intoxicati) si niciun studiu nu a demonstrat ca vreuna dintre metodele alternative ar avea succes. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style=" border-collapse: collapse; font-weight: 800; line-height: 14px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Atat clismele cat si chelation theraphy (despre care puteti citi aici &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/chelation.html"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/chelation.html&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;) pot avea efecte negative.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;De fapt tot ceea ce trebuie sa facem pentru a ne dezintoxica este exact acelasi lucru pe care ar trebui sa-l facem pt  a ne intari imunitatea.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;O dieta echilibrata, continand multe fructe si legume, o cantitate de lichid suficienta incat sa nu ne fie sete, mai putin alcool si tutun si un somn odihnitor sunt suficente pentru ca organismul nostru sa se dezintoxice singur.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;In caz de intoxicatii cu diverse otravuri, pesticide, alcool, droguri, medicamente etc singurii in masura sa faca un tratament de dezintoxicare sunt medicii.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-7935164775728696706?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/7935164775728696706/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/07/detox-fever.html#comment-form' title='11 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/7935164775728696706'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/7935164775728696706'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/07/detox-fever.html' title='Detox Fever.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>11</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-3508227894539104558</id><published>2010-07-12T11:14:00.004+03:00</published><updated>2010-07-12T18:19:08.821+03:00</updated><title type='text'>Intarirea sistemului imunitar.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Le vedem in rafturi, in farmacii, drogherii, plafare. Pana si in rafturile supermarketurilor ne lovim de ele. In reclame, bunicute debordand de sanatate sau pusti uzi ciuciulete ne demonstreaza cat de eficiente sunt suplimentele alimentare sau alimentele care "intaresc imunitatea".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Hai sa vedem ce este de fapt sistemul imunitar si cum poate el "intarit" sau sustinut.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;In primul rand, sistemul imunitar nu  are prostul obicei ca dupa o anumita varsta sa atarne ca sanii. El nu este un muschi care poate fi antrenat cu vitamine si suplimente prebiotice. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;El poate fi "intarit" (mama ce-mi place cuvantul asta :P ) ducand o viata echilibrata; adica o dieta echilibrata, miscare, hidratare si somn suficient. Aceste cateva lucruri asigura functionarea satisfacatoare a intregului organism si deci si a sistemului imunitar.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Sistemul imunitar este format dintr-o armata complexa de proteine si celule, fiecare dintre acestea avand fie un rol general de aparare, fie unul specific. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Toata aceasta armata are un singur scop si anume sa faca diferenta intre EU si restul lumii. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Daca luam numai anticorpii, ei sunt impartiti in 4 grupe dupa afinitatile pe care le au in a ataca diversi agenti patogeni sau diverse structuri ale acestora &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 21px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;IgG, IgA, IgM, IgE). Anticorpii din grupa IgM sunt la randul lor impartiti in 5 subgrupe. In plus de asta, exista proteine ce sunt activate pt a ne proteja  de anumite bacterii si pt a a semnaliza existenta unei infectii celulelor albe.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 21px; font-family:arial;font-size:small;"&gt;"Celulele albe" este o denumire generica ce include limfocite, macrofage, leucocite etc etc etc, fiecare dintre acestea avand la randul lor subgrupe care, la randul lor au fie un rol general fie unul specializat pe un anumit tip de patogeni.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 21px; font-family:arial;font-size:small;"&gt;Ca sa fiu mai clara, raspunsul organismului la o infectie virala este complet diferit de cel la o infectie bacteriana sau la o infectie cu un parazit sau cu un fung. Chiar si in cadrul acestor grupe de patogeni exista diferente majore in modul in care organismul reactioneaza si in care sunt activate diverse grupe ale sistemului imunitar. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 21px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); line-height: 21px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Cum imi poate mie cineva demonstra ca un supliment alimentar poate actiona concomitent asupra tuturor acestor factori si infuenta in mod concomitent limfocitele, macrofagele, leucocitele, toata gama de anticorpi etc fara sa provoace o boala auto imuna? daca nu le infuenteaza in acelasi timp de unde stie bacteria din iaurt ce anume trebuie sa activeze si ce nu?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); 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font-size: small; "&gt;Am gasit acest citat cu mult timp in urma dar cred ca el explica foarte bine efectul placebo:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Increderea pe care o are medicul in tratament si credinta pacientului in medic se sustin reciproc; rezultatul este un remediu puternic ce aproape garanteaza producerea unei imbunatatiri (a starii de sanatate) si uneori a unei vindecari&lt;br /&gt;Petr Skrabanek and James McCormick, Follies and Fallacies in Medicine, p. 13.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "&gt;&lt;span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;i style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "&gt;&lt;span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Un placebo este o substanta farmacologica inerta (Ex. ser fiziologic) care produce un efect similar cu o substanta activa (Ex. analgezic). Efectul placebo este imbunatatirea observabila si masurabila a starii de sanatate ce are loc fara sa fie administrat un medicament, o procedura chirurgicala sau un alt tratament invaziv. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;object width="640" height="385"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/wsFTgirKXHk&amp;amp;hl=de_DE&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/wsFTgirKXHk&amp;amp;hl=de_DE&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="440" height="285"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; "&gt;&lt;span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Putem include aici homeopatia? eu zic ca da, avand in vedere ca in sticluta cu medicamentul homeopat nu se mai gaseste decat apa sau poate zahar daca e sub forma de mici pastilute. Orice substanta chimica s-ar presupune ca a existat la inceput nu mai exista decat pe cutia medicamentului sub forma de titlu. Probabil de asta pot sa vanda fara reteta medicamente care "contin" arsenic, atat &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Arsenicum Album-30 cat si Arsenicum Album-200 nu mai contin arsenic decat in nume.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Putem include aici acupunctura? eu zic ca da, ea intra la categoria operatiilor false. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Unul dintre ultimele studii facute in 2007 in Germania&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;, pe pacienti cu dureri lombare cronice a demonstrat ca intre lotul de pacienti tratat prin acupuncura si lotul de pacienti tratat cu "acupunctura falsa" nu exista o diferenta majora. Diferenta majora a existat intre aceste 2 grupuri si cel tratat traditional, cu analgezice (un lucru normal avand in vedere ca de 8 ani tot incercau analgezicele fara o imbunatatire a starii de sanatate). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt; &lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Methods &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; A patient- and observer-blinded randomized controlled&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;trial conducted in Germany involving 340 outpatient practices,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;including 1162 patients aged 18 to 86 years (mean ± SD&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;age, 50 ± 15 years) with a history of chronic&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;low back pain for a mean of 8 years. Patients underwent ten&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;30-minute sessions, generally 2 sessions per week, of verum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;acupuncture (n = 387) according to principles of traditional&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Chinese medicine; sham acupuncture (n = 387) consisting&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;of superficial needling at nonacupuncture points; or conventional&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;therapy, a combination of drugs, physical therapy, and exercise&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;(n = 388). Five additional sessions were offered to&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;patients who had a partial response to treatment (10%-50% reduction&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;in pain intensity). Primary outcome was response after 6 months,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;defined as 33% improvement or better on 3 pain-related items&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;on the Von Korff Chronic Pain Grade Scale questionnaire or 12%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;improvement or better on the back-specific Hanover Functional&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Ability Questionnaire. Patients who were unblinded or had recourse&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;to other than permitted concomitant therapies during follow-up&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;were classified as nonresponders regardless of symptom improvement.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt; &lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Results &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; At 6 months, response rate was 47.6% in the verum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;acupuncture group, 44.2% in the sham acupuncture group, and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;27.4% in the conventional therapy group. Differences among groups&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;were as follows: verum vs sham, 3.4% (95% confidence interval,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;–3.7% to 10.3%;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;P&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; = .39); verum vs conventional&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;therapy, 20.2% (95% confidence interval, 13.4% to 26.7%; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;P&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt; .001);&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;and sham vs conventional therapy, 16.8% (95% confidence interval,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;10.1% to 23.4%; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;P&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt; .001.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt; &lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Conclusions &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; Low back pain improved after acupuncture treatment&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;for at least 6 months. Effectiveness of acupuncture, either&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;verum or sham, was almost twice that of conventional therapy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; widows: 2; orphans: 2"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 16px; "&gt;&lt;a href="http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/167/17/1892"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "&gt;http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/167/17/1892&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Practic acest experiment a demonstrat ca avem asteptari mari de la acupunctura, toti "stim" ca ea este foarte eficace in tratarea durerilor lombare si deci nici nu mai conteaza ca acele sa fie aplicate corect (noi habar nu avem cum si unde ar trebui aplicate acele) ceea ce conteaza e rutina, acel "protocol" la care ne asteptam sa fim supusi, misterul si faptul ca avem incredere ca ea funtioneaza.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Acum devine interesant. Salutati "puterea rugaciunii" :D&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;O multime de oameni cred intr-un Dumnezeu personal, care asculta si indeplineste dorinte (bietul de el ce ocupat trebuie sa fie) acesti oameni se jura ca rugaciunea are puterea de a ameliora si trata boli... Hmmmm. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Unul dintre putinele studii efectuate pana acum, bazat pe metoda stiintifica si respectand criteriile ei, a dovedit contrariul. Sfantul placebo da aici gres, ba chiar are efecte negative.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Fundatia Templeton (fundatie crestina) a sponsorizat un studiu cu o durata de 3 ani. La studiu au participat 1800 pacienti care au suferit un bypass cardiac. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Diferite biserici s-au rugat pt unul dintre loturile de pacienti. Dupa operatie nu au fost constatate diferente majore (rata de supravietuire sau procentul de complicatii) intre pacientii pt care fusesera spuse rugaciuni si cei pt care nu s-a rugat nimeni. Diferenta semnificativa a fost observata intr-un subgrup al celor pt. care au fost spuse rugaciuni, mai exact al pacientilor care stiau ca pentru ei vor fi spuse rugaciuni. Ca o ironie, insa, ei au suferit intr-un procent mai mare complicatii postoperatorii. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small; "&gt;Aici este studiul original, prin care Fundatia Templeton, a fost nevoita sa recunoasca faptul ca rugaciunea nu functioneaza nici macar cat un placebo si chiar mai rau ca placebo s-a transformat in nocebo. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: small; "&gt;Efentul nocebo este fratele rautacios al placebo, adica inrautatirea starii de sanatate in momentul aplicarii unui placebo.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.templeton.org/newsroom/press_releases/060407step.html"&gt;http://www.templeton.org/newsroom/press_releases/060407step.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: small; "&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Cu siguranta, explicatia fratilor nostrii ortodoxoizi va fi ca rugaciunile nu au functionat pentru ca nu au fost spuse de ortodoxi. Yeah right!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="font-family:Arial;color:#00386B;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 16px; "&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="font-family:Arial;color:#00386B;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 20px; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; line-height: normal; "&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 16px; "&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 18px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); line-height: 20px; "&gt;&lt;span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-size:85%;color:#00386B;"&gt;&lt;i style="margin-top: 0px; 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font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  ;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:medium;"&gt;Pentru ca pe mine cand ma apuca nu pot sa ma mai opresc usor, si pentru ca momentan sunt stresata de "atacurile energetice" ale irationalului am decis sa continui seria despre tratamentele alternative cu homeopatia.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Uuuuuu cati termeni interesanti si plini de mister am gasit... memoria apei, sublimare, potentare etc. Cu asa o terminologie trebuie sa fie si eficace chestia asta, nu?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Multi confunda homeopatia cu folosirea plantelor medicinale. Marea parte a medicamentelor homeopate au, insa,  la baza substante chimice care nu isi au originea in plante. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Principiul pe care se bazeaza homeopatia s-ar traduce in romana cu "cui pe cui se scoate". Deci o substanta care ar provoca febra are "puterea" sa trateze febra.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Ceea ce nu cunoaste multa lume este faptul ca acest principiu activ este atat de diluat incat in toata sticluta de X medicament homeopatic nu a mai ramas nici o molecula din el.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Un exemplu:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;O dilutie normala in homeopatie este, de exemplu 30C. Ce inseamna asta? Fanii homeopatiei spun ca dilutia ar fi de ~1 la 1 milion. FALS. Dupa minimele mele cunostinte de matematica, si am fost un elev sub mediocru la materia asta, inseamna  o picatura la 100 de 30 de ori. Deeeeci 1 in 100 de 30 de ori, deeeeci 10 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;60 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;adica o dilutie de:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1 la &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;1,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Holy Placebo!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#333333;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Ce mai sustin homeopatii? Ei sustin ca cu cat e mai diluat un remediu cu atat mai puternic e. Popularul &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Oscillococcinum foloseste inima si ficat de ratza (:D) intr-o dilutie de 200C. Deci O parte ficat+inima de Donald Duck la 100 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;200 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;parti apa. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Va rog sa nu-mi cereti sa scriu asta cu zerouri, va rog din "suflet"!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Si atunci cum functioneaza aceste medicamente? pai medicii homeopati sustin ca apa are memorie, incercarile lor de a demonstra "memoria apei" nu au avut pana in prezent succes iar la manusa aruncata de James Randi, 1 mil. $ pentru persoana care ar demostra o cat de mica deosebire intre un medicament homeopat si apa chioara, nu a fost ridicata pana acum de nimeni.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;De fapt, toate testele care au fost facute pana acum, au aratat ca medicamentul homeopat in sine nu are cum sa functioneze. El e numai apa, sau alcool sau zahar. Orice substanta activa ar fi existat la inceput a fost diluata pana la disparitie. Apa e doar H2O, doi atomi de Hidrogen si unul de Oxigen. Atomii nu au creier si deci nici memorie. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Intrebarea mea, la care mi-as dori un raspuns de specialitate este: daca apa are o memorie si daca in dilutii uriase substantele chimice ar avea efect, inseamna ca apa de la robinet e medicament homeopat?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;OK atat pe ziua de azi, ma doare mintea deja 1 la 100 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;200 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;e prea mult pentru mine, tre' sa-mi revin.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; font-weight: normal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;PS - Despre efectul placebo, data aviatoare.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;P.S. 2 - Daca am gresit la calcul va rog sa ma corectati - "eu e blonda" iar profesoara mea de mate din liceu ar ramane uimita ca pot folosi atatea zerouri fara sa lesin.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="line-height: 100%"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-4184569262851347343?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/4184569262851347343/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/07/medicina-fara-principii-active.html#comment-form' title='6 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/4184569262851347343'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/4184569262851347343'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/07/medicina-fara-principii-active.html' title='Medicina fara principii active- Homeopatia.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-3900575588536097356</id><published>2010-07-09T14:18:00.003+03:00</published><updated>2010-07-09T15:49:12.289+03:00</updated><title type='text'>Medicina traditionala- plantele medicinale.</title><content type='html'>Daca tot am adus in discutie medicina alternativa m-am gandit ca ar fi cazul sa incep cu inceputul.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;De sute de mii de ani (6000 dupa unii) omul a folosit plantele atat pentru hrana cat si ca medicament, multe din medicamentele existente astazi pe piata isi au originea in "leacuri babesti", un exemplu ar fi aspirina (acidul acetilsalicilic) acum ea este sintetizata, in trecut era extrasa ca acid salicilic din coaja de salcie. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Farmacologii studiaza continuu principiile active continute de plante, in incercarea de a creea noi medicamente. Ceea ce vreau sa subliniez e faptul ca ceea ce oamenii sintetizeaza acum in laboratoate, plantele fac de milioane si milioane  de ani (sau 6000 de ani- dupa unii). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Plantele sunt laboratoare chimice naturale dar ele nu sunt mai putin periculoase si nu au mai putine efecte secundare ca medicamentele moderne, de sinteza.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Tratamentul babesc, auzit de la o vecina, cu ceai de X planta poate deveni periculos pentru altcineva si de fiecare data cand aud persoane care isi indoapa copiii cu ceaiuri si tincturi pe principiul ca "sunt 100% naturale si deci nu pot face rau" ma apuca durerea de cap. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Si matraguna e 100% naturala, cu toate astea e otravitoare. Orice planta medicinala are efecte secundare daca se depaseste o anumita doza, exact ca si un medicament!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Tot asa, in fiecare planta pe care o folositi la ceaiul medicinal, exista si substante chimice care sunt daunatoare sau care intra in conflict cu medicatia alopata pe care o luati. De ex. exista unele plante care fac ca pastila anticonceptionala sa nu aiba efect, sunatoarea pare sa fie una dintre ele! Spun ca "pare" deoarece exista putine studii stiintifice in domeniu.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Multi se vor intreba cum au trait oamenii aia de acum sute de mii de ani  (sau 6000) fara medicamente si ce bine ar fi sa ne tratam "natural" si fara chimicale.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;1. Speranta de viata in Europa in jurul anului 1000 era de aprox. 24 de ani. De aici rezulta ca oamenii au trait putin si prost. Din 3 copii, 2 mureau la nastere iar din cei care se nasteau vii, mureau in primii de viata ani o multime.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;2. Naturalul din plante este tot chimical. Sorry, atomii sunt atomi indiferent daca provin din celula unei plante, a unui animal sau daca sunt produsi in laborator.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Noi avem timpul necesar sa ne facem aceste probleme tocmai din cauza medicinii moderne. Fara medicamentele moderne, fara vaccinuri, fara sistemul sanitar (asa de prost cum este), fara medici am fi fost ,majoritatea dintre noi, morti.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Exista mai nou o manie sa fie promovat cuvantul "natural" ca fiind ceva miraculos. Orice este natural este automat mai bun. Reclamele acutizeaza acest sentiment adaugand cuvantul natural la orice. Practic nu mai poti vinde un produs daca nu e ECO, natural sau fara E-uri (revin la E-uri alta data). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Suntem bombardati cu iaurturi naturale si miraculoase care curata colonul (de parca intestinele ar fi ca lenjeria intima, sa trebuiasca sa fie curatate zilnic), cu pilule naturale de "detoxifiere" (de parca corpul nostru ar fi intoxicat iar ficatul si rinichii nu ar avea deja rolul asta), cu ceaiuri si pastile miraculoase impotriva diverselor boli, cu lacto bacterii ninja care ne intaresc imunitatea etc &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Daca citim insa ce scrie pe prospect, cu litere mici, constatam ca ele ar fi doar "adjuvante", cu alte cuvinte cam scumpe pentru un placebo... &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Daca ar exista un ceai care sa vindece de cancer, medicii ar fi primii sa-l prescrie. Nu exista nici o "conspiratie a oncologilor evrei", care sa prefere sa extirpe tumori, sa iradieze sau ca foloseasca alte metode extrem de periculoase si care sa ascunda ceaiul miraculos inventat de un "geniu neinteles".&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-3900575588536097356?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/3900575588536097356/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/07/medicina-traditionala-plantele.html#comment-form' title='14 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/3900575588536097356'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/3900575588536097356'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/07/medicina-traditionala-plantele.html' title='Medicina traditionala- plantele medicinale.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>14</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-1715077551284760988</id><published>2010-07-08T11:47:00.015+03:00</published><updated>2010-07-08T23:54:05.538+03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sarlatanie'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='medicina alternativa'/><title type='text'>Samanii moderni.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Ca sa vedeti ca Romania nu e singura tara unde samanii ezoterici apar la TV, si ca nu numai in Romania mor oameni din cauza increderii acordate de parte a mass media medicinii alternative, m-am chinuit sa traduc chestia asta din germana.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Habar nu aveam de aceasta "Medicina germana noua" avand in vedere ca eu nu prea ma uit TV si cu atat mai putin nu ma uit la postul public din Austria. Pentru cei care cunosc germana pun aici un clip care face parte dintr-o emisiune transmisa la un post TV public (tin sa subliniez chestia asta), in care aceasta forma de medicina este prezentata ca o alternativa viabila si mult mai buna tratamentelor conventionale, si in care nu este nimeni invitat sa contraargumenteze spusele celor doua individe, una "miraculos" vindecata de cancer si a doua cica "medic alternativ".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;object width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/RnaYMISZOKE&amp;amp;hl=de_DE&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/RnaYMISZOKE&amp;amp;hl=de_DE&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;OK, ce stim despre aceasta Medicina noua germana? Pai a fost inventata si patentata in 1981 de &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Ryke Geerd Hamer, &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;dupa ce fiul lui a fost impuscat si a murit si dupa ce, la un timp de la aceasta intamplare nefericita, el a descoperit un cancer testicular&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Hamer combina medicina cu ezotericul, adauga putin antisemitism si ceva teorii ale conspiratiei si din toata aceasta varza porneste sa-si faca reclama si sa "vindece". &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;In 1986 el isi pierde licenta de a practica medicina in Germania si este condamnat de mai multe ori pentru inselaciune. Actualmente traieste in exil in Norvegia.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Ce vindeca el? aaaaaa pai de la negi la cancer dar este "specialist in cancer si SIDA". Absolut normal...Numai un om disperat ar putea cadea in asa o capcana, iar oameni disperati din cauza unui neg nu am cunoscut.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Disperati si creduli au fost si parintii unei fetite de 12 ani - bolnava de cancer, dar careia medicii de la un spital universitar de prestigiu i-au dat o prognoza buna de vindecare cu chimoterapie. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Ce au facut parintii? au intrerupt tratamentul (ca doar chimo facea rau copilului) si au acceptat diagnosticul pus la distanta de "medicul" condamnat Hamer. In cateva luni copilul a murit. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Diagnosticul pus de "vizionarul si genialul" a fost de "conflict de apa" (din cauza ca Susanne a fost aproape de inec) acest conflict ar fi cauzat chisturi la un rinichi, dar a asigurat pe parinti ca Susanne e sanatoasa si nu necesita nici un tratament.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Parintii fetitei au avut tupeul sa depuna plangere la procuratura, impotriva spitalului care i-ar fi implantat un "cip cu capsule de otrava, telecomandat prin satelit". Normal ca procuratura s-a autosesizat impotriva parintilor si, tot normal, nu a luat in seama acuzatiile lor la adresa medicilor care si-ar fi dorit sa-si faca meseria dar care nu au fost lasati.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Acesta este numai unul dintre ultimele cazuri de bolnavi morti in urma intreruperii tratamentului medical, exista multe asemenea cazuri, ingropate de fanaticii acestei secte.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Ce declara Hamer unor reporteri germani, care l-au vizitat in Norvegia? El sustine ca in Spitalul Universitar Ulm medicii i-ar fi implantat fetitei un "cip al mortii, controlat prin satelit" si din cauza asta nu a supravietuit. Ce mai declara alternativul? tratamentul normal impotriva cancerului- chimoterapia, a fost inventat de evrei ca sa depopuleze planeta....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; font-size:medium;"&gt;Pentru cei care cunosc germana, e aici un reportaj foarte bine documentat pe BR (televiziunea publica, locala din Bayern). Jos palaria BR!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.br-online.de/bayerisches-fernsehen/kontrovers/kontrovers-scharlatan-neue-germanische-medizin-ID1274941362158.xml"&gt;http://www.br-online.de/bayerisches-fernsehen/kontrovers/kontrovers-scharlatan-neue-germanische-medizin-ID1274941362158.xml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Ce inseamna de fapt aceasta "noua medicina"? pe ce se bazeaza ea?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Hamer crede ca orice cancer este produs de un soc, "un conflict biologic" si ca rezolvarea acestul "conflict" impiedica celulele canceroase sa se reproduca. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Ex: iti e frica de apa? ai produs un conflict biologic si risti ca faci cancer iar terapia consta in tratarea fricii de apa si nu a cancerului existent. Al exemplu. Nu fumatul produce cancer ci teama ca fumatul ar produce cancer. Mda. Pana si cancerul lui testicular (de care am amintit la inceput) ar fi fost produs de socul tragediei prin care a trecut la moartea fiului... Right. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Tratamentul recomandat? Nu exista. Cel mult se recomanda evitarea medicamentelor, a stressului si psihoterapia.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Aderentii la aceasta "noua medicina" sunt la fel de spalati pe creier ce si aderentii la o secta, construita pe teorii ale conspiratiei si antisemitism. Cateva exemple de idei sustinute de "medicul minune": evreii nu au cancer sau daca au cancer nu sunt tratati cu chimoterapii ci in secret, conform noii medicini germane, sau ca toti oncologii sunt evrei si incearca sa produca un genocid. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Ca de obicei evreii sunt de vina... Daca moare cineva "tratat" prin metodele noii medicini asta se datoreaza faptului ca avea organismul "otravit" de medicamente. Yeah, right!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'times new roman';"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; font-size:medium;"&gt;Aceasta secta (nu ii pot spune altfel) este din ce in ce mai raspandita in Germania si Austria si probabil ca o sa aud multe cazuri ca cel al Susannei.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="  line-height: 15px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; font-family:'times new roman';font-size:medium;"&gt;Recomand tuturor celor care inteleg germana documentarul de mai sus; nu clipul cu cele doua "alternative" de pe ORF 2 ci cel de pe BR la care nu pot da embed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-1715077551284760988?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/1715077551284760988/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/07/samanii-moderni.html#comment-form' title='4 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/1715077551284760988'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/1715077551284760988'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/07/samanii-moderni.html' title='Samanii moderni.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-1237484432796920770</id><published>2010-06-17T10:53:00.002+03:00</published><updated>2010-06-17T12:18:55.535+03:00</updated><title type='text'>Identitatea nationala</title><content type='html'>Cum cataloghezi calitatea vietii unui copil? Analizezi cate jucarii are, cati prieteni? Conteaza ce studii au parintii? Ce etnie? Conteaza daca sta impreuna cu parintii intr-o garsoniera sau intr-o vila de 900 de mp? Are vreo importanta daca mama ii gateste sau daca bona il duce la fast-food? Se pare ca nu, se pare ca importanta e religia.&lt;br /&gt;Luni mi s-a facut o ancheta sociala. Nu am fost intrebata ce studii am, ce venit am, daca stau singura cu copilul sau sta si tatal cu noi. Nu am fost intrebata ce etnie, ce nationalitate, ce cetatenie am. Dar in schimb a trebuit sa imi justific lipsa apartenentei mele la un sistem religios. A trebuit sa fac asta pentru ca anchetatorul trecea din burta ortodox. Evident contraargumentul reprezentantului primariei era ca am fost botezata, motiv pentru care eram, cu sau fara vointa mea, oita ortodoxa. Asadar e musai sa apartin cultului respectiv pentru ca la 3 luni cand m-a bagat popa in lighean, nu am avut suficienta tarie sa ma opun.&lt;br /&gt;Nu am inteles nici pana acum de ce Comisiei pentru Protectia Copilului ii pasa mai mult daca sunt sau nu sunt membra a unui cult religios, decat daca fi-mea primeste afectiunea, educatia si medicatia necesara, intr-un spatiu locativ propice. Sau cumva se presupune ca odata cu eliminarea de pe lista de compensate a unor medicamente, ca membru al cultului ortodox, cand nu voi mai avea cu ce sa ii cumpar pastilele, voi apela cu siguranta la "efectele miraculoase ale rugaciunii"?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-1237484432796920770?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/1237484432796920770/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/06/identitatea-nationala.html#comment-form' title='12 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/1237484432796920770'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/1237484432796920770'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/06/identitatea-nationala.html' title='Identitatea nationala'/><author><name>Dada</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13457864351246955707</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Y9jhReikKcY/S7iKFwj8NoI/AAAAAAAAAAs/2naBJCKDAgI/S220/avatare_cool_avatare%2B(30).gif'/></author><thr:total>12</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-2837593579466992828</id><published>2010-05-22T23:06:00.003+03:00</published><updated>2010-05-22T23:08:18.827+03:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Cărţi'/><title type='text'>O carte pentru părinţi raţionali - de Michael Shermer</title><content type='html'>Se numeşte &lt;a name="7291068589299697637"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://atheistmovies.blogspot.com/2010/05/teach-your-child-science-making-science.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Teach  Your Child Science: Making Science Fun for the Both of You&lt;/a&gt; şi poate fi downloadată de pe rapidshare: &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://rapidshare.com/files/390256189/Michael.Shermer-Teach.Your.Child.Science.rar"&gt;http://rapidshare.com/files/390256189/Michael.Shermer-Teach.Your.Child.Science.rar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-2837593579466992828?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/2837593579466992828/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/05/o-carte-pentru-parinti-rationali-de.html#comment-form' title='3 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/2837593579466992828'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/2837593579466992828'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/05/o-carte-pentru-parinti-rationali-de.html' title='O carte pentru părinţi raţionali - de Michael Shermer'/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-4663840850607514570</id><published>2010-05-19T14:26:00.002+03:00</published><updated>2010-05-19T15:37:28.062+03:00</updated><title type='text'>Ca asa vrem noi...</title><content type='html'>Tara asta a noastra e de-a dreptul minunata si uimitoare pe zi ce trece sau cu fiecare institutie, de stat evident, careia ii treci pragul. Acum m-am lovit de o institutie care se lauda ca ar proteja drepturile, interesele si nevoile copilului(poate or proteja mai multe...oricum nu-i prea relevant de vreme ce nu s-au remarcta prin prea multe). Cladirea in care se afla sediul acestei minunate institutii, in cazul sectorului "care este" unde din nefericire locuiesc, se afla intr-un fost centru de plasament. Arata deplorabil, intr-atat de deplorabil ca am crezut ca am gresit adresa si mi-a fost frica sa intru. Dar nu asta e relevant.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Am intrat intr-un birou, mai exact in cel al comisiei de expertiza.Ei se ocupa cu emiterea de certificate de handicap. Cum fetita mea are probleme si la sfatul medicilor ei curanti am mers acolo, am zis sa fac cele necesare emiterii unui certificat de handicap. Mi-am facut frumos un dosarel, in baza informatiilor primite de la o tanti de la ei, pe care am incercat sa il inmanez unei doamne, doctor din cate am inteles, dar nu am reusit. In cateva secunde ma trezesc in mijlocul unui introgatoriu.  Si nu un interogatoriu profesional ci unul grosolan dupa cum e datina prin institutiile statului nostru drag. Parca furasem ceva de pe taraba vreunui cocalar de sector 5. Veneau intrebari din 3 directii, in acelasi timp, pe un ton...ostil e putin spus. Ca sa ma "apar" deschid dosarul si incerc sa sustrag un certificat medical al fetei. Nu am apucat. Doamna din fata mea mi-l smulge din mana cu viteza. Se face liniste vreo 20 de secunde dupa care vine intrebarea:" Asa, si? Ce-i cu asta? De unde il aveti?" Zic ca de la medic, ca e certificatul medical care ii atesta afectiunea si ma fac mai mica, parca eram pedepsita la scoala ca nu mi-am facut tema. Asteptam sa imi zica sa tin mainile la spate sau sa trec la colt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Se uitau la mine ca si cum venisem sa cumpar chiloti de la un magazin cu produse lactate. Simteam cum incep sa clocotesc de nervi si deja imi blestemam secunda cand am decis sa fac pasul asta. Si in timp ce ma gandeam sa ma scuz si sa ies din incapere ca sa imi aprind o bine-meritata tigara si sa fug la propriu de acolo, una din distinsele doamne se rasteste la mine:" Si mai exact ce vreti, doamna? Sa prelungiti concediul? Nu se poate!" si intreb de ce. " Nu se poate pentru ca fata nu are nimic!". Huh? Nimic? Le scot scrisori medicale, analize, certificate, retete. Doamnele se uita, se uita din nou si spun:" Astea nu sunt diagnostice. Sunt doar o insiruire de cuvinte.". Nu am ramas uimita, am ramas socata, ma uitam ca prosta la ele si ele la mine si imi doream sa ma trezeasca cineva. Asadar ce scria la diagnostic era pura alaturare de cuvinte cu sau fara sens si nu avea nimic in comun cu vreo concluzie medicala. Le-am intrebat cum adica nu-i diagnostic, cum adica astmul, care e astm, nu-l poti mima nu e astm dupa capul lor decat dupa 7-8 ani, pana atunci e o bronsita, asaaaa...un fleac etc. Si m-am trezit prinsa intr-un vortex de explicatii care mai de care mai cretine si cand eram pe punctul sa ametesc bine, imi scapa din gura intrebarea:" Nu va suparati, dar dvs ce specialitate aveti?". Madamele fac o pauza, zambesc si una dintre ele incepe prezentarile(fara nume...asa e la noi): Dansa este medic psihiatru, eu sunt psiholog, domnisoara tot psihiatru si domnul din spate e coleg cu noi". Asadar un diagnostic care tinea de o specialitate diferita de a celor prezenti acolo, era puternic combatut fara drept de apel. Asadar daca ai nevoie de o interventie chirugicala pe creier te poti duce linistit si la un cizmar sa ti-o faca, de moment ce orice habarnist isi poate da cu parerea si mai mult decat atat sa conteste ceea ce altii, experti in domeniu, au scris acolo. Pentru ca tara asta e minunata si ofera oricui posibilitati nemarginite.&lt;br /&gt;Mentionez ca doamnele nici macar nu au vazut copilul, dar ce mai? asta e un detaliu insignifiant, atat timp cat pe diploma lor scria doctor, specialitatea fiind irelevanta.Nu e de mirare ca orice membru al etniei majoritare din tara asta are un certificat de handicap, chiar daca e perfect sanatos si orice mama de puradel e automat asistent social sau maternal cum mama ma-sii ii zice si primeste bani de la stat.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-4663840850607514570?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/4663840850607514570/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/05/ca-asa-vrem-noi.html#comment-form' title='5 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/4663840850607514570'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/4663840850607514570'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/05/ca-asa-vrem-noi.html' title='Ca asa vrem noi...'/><author><name>Dada</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13457864351246955707</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Y9jhReikKcY/S7iKFwj8NoI/AAAAAAAAAAs/2naBJCKDAgI/S220/avatare_cool_avatare%2B(30).gif'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-5855207994322885926</id><published>2010-05-03T12:45:00.004+03:00</published><updated>2010-05-20T14:07:47.859+03:00</updated><title type='text'>Libertatea de exprimare.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#6600CC;"&gt;Update!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#6600CC;"&gt;Happy &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#6600CC;"&gt;Everybody Draw Mohammed Day!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#6600CC;"&gt;Pentru ca nu am vrut sa jignesc "sensibilitatea" nimanui, am ales sa postez si un verset dintr-un hadith. Acest verset nu doreste decat sa arate geniul medical, demn de secolul XXI, al lui Mo.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#6600CC;"&gt;Yap, invataturile batranului Mo sunt inca de actualitate, si nu e de mirare ca atatia oameni le urmeaza cu sfintenie...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;color:#6600CC;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S_UWfVpse-I/AAAAAAAAABk/8kxEid7Y-Iw/s1600/Camels.sized.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 200px; height: 143px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S_UWfVpse-I/AAAAAAAAABk/8kxEid7Y-Iw/s200/Camels.sized.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5473305649782488034" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Traiesc intr-o tara in care libertatea de exprimare este garantata prin constitutie, cu toate acestea teistii incearca din toate puterile sa limiteze aceasta libertate si sa transfiorme religia untr-un subiect tabu.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Suntem obisnuiti sa luam in deradere religia crestina si toate sectele derivate, avem dreptul sa radem de Isus, Buddha, Thor, Zeus, Manitou etc. , dar pare ca islamul a ramas religia care, desi e contestata, este si cel mai putin ridiculizata. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;De fiecare data cand s-a incercat "demitizarea" ironica a profetului mult prea fericit s-a ajuns fie la cenzura, fie la proteste imense, la amenintari si in cel mai rau caz, chiar la crima. Umorul a ajuns sa fie cenzurat, iar ironia e declarata blasfemie!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Nu imi e teama, si sunt mandra sa particip la &lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style=" color: rgb(51, 51, 51);  font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"&gt;Everybody Draw Mohammed Day&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=115371898486007"&gt;aici&lt;/a&gt; si &lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Everybody-Draw-Mohammed-Day/121369914543425"&gt;aici&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;Nu sunt rasista si nici islamofoba dar vreau sa am dreptul sa-l desenez pe Mohamed daca simt nevoia.  In mod normal nu as simti aceasta nevoie, dar fac acum o exceptie... &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"   style="font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;color:#6600CC;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#6600CC;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#6600CC;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="color:#6600CC;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style=" ;font-family:arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-5855207994322885926?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/5855207994322885926/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/05/libertatea-de-exptimare.html#comment-form' title='24 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/5855207994322885926'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/5855207994322885926'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/05/libertatea-de-exptimare.html' title='Libertatea de exprimare.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S_UWfVpse-I/AAAAAAAAABk/8kxEid7Y-Iw/s72-c/Camels.sized.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>24</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-1504177019547251409</id><published>2010-04-19T15:36:00.003+03:00</published><updated>2010-04-19T16:07:47.945+03:00</updated><title type='text'>Indoctrinarea se face din fasa/Eu sunt o mama rea</title><content type='html'>M-a inflacarat un schimb de replici intre Anca si un domn nascut si crescut intru "dreapta credinta", miltant al moralei crestine si purtator de cuvant al "imparatiei cerurilor".(Nu doresc sa atac in vreun fel orgoliul acestui domn pentru ca nu asta este interesul meu.). Ceea ce m-a inflacarta a fost o intrebare pe care distinsul domn i-a adresat-o Ancai si anume, daca isi iubeste cu adevart copii.&lt;br /&gt; Am vazut si am auzit de copii care in loc sa invete poezii invata rugaciuni, e drept ca si astea sunt in versuri, dar exista totusi o distinctie clara. Asadar daca sustii ca iti iubesti cu adevarat odorul e musai sa ii citesti seara pilde biblice si sa il duci la biserica. Prin urmare eu sunt o mama tare rea. Dar stiti cat de rea? Incredibil de rea. Eu ii citesc fetei povesti si ii spun poezii, o duc in parc in loc sa o duc sa dea pe gat o lingurita de vin acru si prost de la biserica, o duc la doctor atunci cand plange prea mult si nu stiu ce are in loc sa ii spun repede un "tatal nostru", ii cumpar jucarii care o invata literele si cifrele si nu jucarii care "recita" "inger, ingerasul meu", ii cumpar carti care sa o invete culorile si nu iconite cu " doamne-doamne", nu ma duc la biserica sa ma rog pentru sufletul si sanatatea ei ci caut solutii pentru a-i trata problemele medicale, nu o duc sa pupe moaste ci ii cumpar medicamente. Asadar eu sunt o mama cu adevarat denaturata. Eu nu imi iubesc deloc copilul.&lt;br /&gt; Si ca sa duc la extrema ura mea imensa fata de copil, nu imi voi forta fata sa creada in ceva ci ii voi spune ca nu exista dumnezeu si ca biblia e doar o carte de mituri. Nu o voi lasa sa mearga la ora de religie la scoala(desi sper, ca pana cand va ajunge ea la scoala, religia sa nu mai faca parte din programa...dar poate ca sper prea multe) ci ii voi alege un curs care sa ii deschida noi orizonturi, care sa o faca sa nu traiasca in bezna toata viata tocindu-si genunchii in biserici si lingand icoane, cerand indurare de la inexistent. Imi voi invata copila sa gandeasca si sa rationeze. Ii voi arata ca nu orice sarcina trebuie tinuta, ca nu trebuie sa stea cu baticul in cap, ca nu trebuie sa stea sub comanda barbatului si sa ii indure bataile, ca nu trebuie sa aduca omagii unui obiect de tortura, ca trebuie sa manance ca sa traiasca nu sa rabde de foame ca sa se "curete", ca mancarea e mancare si nu sta nimeni sa ii analizeze caracterul dupa ceea ce scoate afara, ca viata e una singura si trebuie sa profite la maxim de timpul pe care il are la dispozitie pentru a fi fericita.&lt;br /&gt; Daca un crestin vrea sa isi indoctrineze copilul de ce e mai putin condamnabil comparativ cu mine? De ce e ala mai bun si eu mai rea? De ce e bine sa iti faci din copil un sclav religios, dar nu e bine sa il inveti sa gandeasca, sa rationeze, sa isi puna intrebari?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-1504177019547251409?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/1504177019547251409/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/04/indoctrinarea-se-face-din-fasaeu-sunt-o.html#comment-form' title='25 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/1504177019547251409'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/1504177019547251409'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/04/indoctrinarea-se-face-din-fasaeu-sunt-o.html' title='Indoctrinarea se face din fasa/Eu sunt o mama rea'/><author><name>Dada</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13457864351246955707</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Y9jhReikKcY/S7iKFwj8NoI/AAAAAAAAAAs/2naBJCKDAgI/S220/avatare_cool_avatare%2B(30).gif'/></author><thr:total>25</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-2724024883815682498</id><published>2010-04-14T11:16:00.005+03:00</published><updated>2010-04-14T14:20:56.171+03:00</updated><title type='text'>Ora de religie in varianta moderna. Povesti care nu sunt spuse copiilor.</title><content type='html'>Ma opun categoric predarii religiei in scoli deoarece religia si Biblia nu sunt prezentate corect. Biblia nu este o carte morala, Biblia nu este cartea dupa care ar trebui invatati copiii ce este aceea morala. Dumnezeu nu este persoana prezentata de catre profesorii de religie, el nu este tatal iubitor si drept. Povestile biblice nu ar trebui prezentate ca pe ceva impersonal ci ca pe niste fapte care, cel putin in legenda respectiva, au influentat oameni si realitati.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sa luam de exemplu povestea potopului. Fiind anticar, am in casa cateva versiuni ale acestei povesti in Biblii pentru copii. In aceste carti potopul este prezentat extrem de sumar; cativa barbati care construiesc o corabie:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S8V-TxFQQbI/AAAAAAAAABU/sbqUVysAQ-E/s1600/ADR+030.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 200px; height: 150px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S8V-TxFQQbI/AAAAAAAAABU/sbqUVysAQ-E/s200/ADR+030.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5459909001314582962" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;o corabie navigand,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S8V-yEUZf9I/AAAAAAAAABc/Bbk3RY6wyRg/s1600/ADR+029.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 200px; height: 150px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S8V-yEUZf9I/AAAAAAAAABc/Bbk3RY6wyRg/s200/ADR+029.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5459909521874452434" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;dar nu sunt aratate niciodata victimele potopului, oamenii si animalele care au murit inecati.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Sa incerc sa repovestesc aceasta legenda, asa cum ar trebui ea spusa copiilor, asa cum o mama i-ar povesti despre potop fetitei ei de 6 ani.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Da, draga mea Tami... Oamenii erau foarte rai in zilele acelea, iar Dumnezeu cel bun si drept, cel la care trebuie sa ne rugam in fiecare seara, a hotarat sa-i pedepseasca pe acesti oameni. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Sa inece pamantul cu toti oamenii, barbati, femei, copii (da, pana si nou nascutii) si toate animalele- iepurasii, caprioarele, si leii. Pana si ramele, carabusii, fluturii trebuiau inecati.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Noe si familia lui, stiind ceea ce se va intampla, a construit o corabie mare in care au inghesuit perechi din toate animalele pamantului. Ceilalti oameni nu si-au construit corabii.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In ziua in care apele s-au revarsat, baietelul X, care avea cam aceeasi varsta cu tine, a inceput sa planga infricosat. Si-a strigat mama si s-a agatat de ea cu toate puterile. Parintii lui nu aveau nici o corabie, nici macar o barca. Cuprins de panica, a plans si s-a rugat la Dumnezeu sa-l salveze, dar Dumnezeu era suparat pe el. Oare cu ce a gresit in scurta lui viata incat Dumnezeu sa vrea sa-l inece? Oare fratele lui nou nascut a avut timp sa greseasca cu ceva? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Foarte mult timp de gandire nu a avut bietul baietel, pentru ca apele au navalit in casa si rapid i-au depasit inaltimea. Disperati, parintii au incercat sa-si salveze copiii si i-au ridicat deasupra lor. Tipand de frica, si printre lacrimi,  X a vazut cum tatal lui ii scapa fratiorul nou nascut in apa si cum acesta dispare. Apoi apa a crescut si mai mult si l-a acoperit pe X. El nu a mai putut plange si nici tipa dupa ajutor, plamanii lui erau plini de apa, si fiecare incercare de a respira ii provoca din ce in ce mai multa durere. Intr-o secunda, si-a vazut parintii cum mor, extremitatile s-au invinetit din cauza lipsei de oxigen, ochii aproape i-au iesit din orbite, si a murit si el, bietul baietel X, a carui vina a fost aceea ca Dumnezeu era suparat pe oameni.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In nici un caz nu i-as povesti fiicei mele asa ceva, dar asta e realitatea. Realitatea obscena si nu cea prezentata in cartile cu poze! Asta este Biblia- o colectie de povesti de groaza si nu zeama dulceaga prezentata copiilor prin carti sau la ore.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-2724024883815682498?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/2724024883815682498/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/04/ora-de-religie-in-varianta-moderna.html#comment-form' title='17 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/2724024883815682498'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/2724024883815682498'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/04/ora-de-religie-in-varianta-moderna.html' title='Ora de religie in varianta moderna. Povesti care nu sunt spuse copiilor.'/><author><name>Anca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12007343755392283748</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='24' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S1glEI9J84I/AAAAAAAAAAM/xFyIa3x-otc/S220/ipulogoblack_small.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Crnw4dsDfgo/S8V-TxFQQbI/AAAAAAAAABU/sbqUVysAQ-E/s72-c/ADR+030.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>17</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-4263936920648662467</id><published>2010-04-12T14:59:00.002+03:00</published><updated>2010-04-12T15:21:51.382+03:00</updated><title type='text'>Invatamant ...</title><content type='html'>Recent am participat la o intalnire cu un domnul Florin Colceag care, zice dansul, participa la elaborarea noii legi a invatamantului. &lt;br /&gt;Din pacate domnul Colceag nu pare sa aiba legatura cu realitatea. Ca sa fiu foarte draguta domnul Colceag este un idealist. Domnul Colceag pare sa nu aiba habar ce se intampla in scoala romaneasca. Domnul Colceag considera ca tot ce e rau este "vina profesorilor". Domnul Colceag considera ca ceea ne lipseste noua acum este ... o noua lege a invatamantului.&lt;br /&gt;Invatamantul romanesc are multe probleme. Pe de o parte programa prost facuta (de la scoaterea evolutionismului din biologie, la studierea pH-ului in clasa a IX-a la chimie in conditiile in care logaritmii se fac in clasa a X-a la matematica pana la scoaterea lui Platon din manualele de filozofie), pe de alta parte lipsa cvasi-totala a materialelor didactice pentru a putea tine o ora de stiinte de bun-simt si nu in ultimul rand calitatea scazuta a oamenilor care profeseaza datorata in special salariilor mizerabile din sistem. La astea (probabil ca o consecinta a ultimei afirmatii) se adauga spaga practicata in diverse etape ale invatamantului.&lt;br /&gt;Se pare ca cei care fac noua lege a invatamantului ignora toate cele de mai sus gandindu-se ca ... vor trece de la sine daca le ignoram. &lt;br /&gt;Si uite asa vom avea o alta lege a invatamantului. Care va bulversa iarasi (a cata oara in ultimii 20 de ani?) elevii, parintii si profesorii, ca sa nu se plictiseasca :).&lt;br /&gt;Noua lege adauga 2 clase (clasa 0 si clasa a IX-a) scolii generale. In conditiile in care scolile sunt aglomerate la nivelul la care se invata in 2 schimburi adaugarea a 2 ani va produce .... aparitia celui de al treilea schimb??? Am inteles de la domnul Colceag ca se va promova o "scoala dupa scoala" adica un fel de after school. UNDE? Fizic, ca locatie adica? Nu se stie!  Deci se mareste numarul de elevi in scoli, se mareste numarul de ore pentru fiecare elev (in conditiile in care programa este supra-aglomerata si prost facuta) dar nu se investeste nici un leu in construirea de noi scoli, marirea salariilor pentru atragerea oamenilor de calitate si material didactic. &lt;br /&gt;Ce bine ma simt cand legile sunt facute de idealisti .....&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-4263936920648662467?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/4263936920648662467/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/04/invatamant.html#comment-form' title='6 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/4263936920648662467'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/4263936920648662467'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/04/invatamant.html' title='Invatamant ...'/><author><name>Sorana</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13528598190403181299</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-3983715131345467413</id><published>2010-04-06T13:17:00.002+03:00</published><updated>2010-04-06T13:33:50.608+03:00</updated><title type='text'>E pacat sa...</title><content type='html'>Ieri, 5 aprilie, a doua zi de Paste, luni pentru mine, m-am apucat sa pun in masina de spalat hainele fetei. Pentru ca e copil si se murdareste extrem de repede si mai nou insista sa manance singura, ramasesem fara haine de stat in casa si iesit afara(eu le tin pe categorii). Pentru ca am petrecut zilele astea impreuna cu familia mea, tatal meu a fost martorul imprudentei mele de a spala in sfanta zi de luni. Mi-a spus clar si raspicat ca "e pacat". L-am intrebat de ce e pacat? De ce nu e pacat sa spal vasele dupa ce mananc in ele, ca doar tot spalat se cheama? De ce nu e pacat sa ma spal pe dinti, pe corp? De ce nu e pacat sa spal chiuveta, vasul WC daca e murdar? De ce se aplica regula pacatului doar la hainele spalate in masina de spalat? Evident aceleasi intrebari le adresez tuturor crestinilor, alora care nu si-au petrecut noptile pe la primiri urgente de la prea multa mancare si/sau bautura. De ce e pacar sa spal hainele de paste, de Florii, de Craciun, duminca, vinerea, in zilele cu cruce etc?&lt;br /&gt;Pe mine treaba asta m-a enervat la culme. Mi-a fost suficient faptul ca am fost asaltata cu indemnuri de a tine post, de a merge la biserica sa ma spovedesc, impartasesc, sa trec pe sub masa/Aer(cum i-o zice exact nu stiu...am auzit ambele variante), sa stau cu batic in cap si restul de indemnuri crestine care mai de care mai ciudate, dar sa nu spal? Sa nu dau cu aspiratorul cand fi-mea imprastie faina prin toata bucataria?...e de-a dreptul pur si simplu. Oamenii astia au creierul mai mult decat spalat. Nici macar prostie nu se mai poate numi. Sunt la fel ca oamenii bolnavi psihic care se cred Spiderman sau Al Capone sau Ileana Cosanzeana. Pana la urma a fi un bun crestin in ochii lor se rezuma la ce intra si ce iese pe gaurile aferente fiecarui proces fiziologic in parte, la statul cu organul genital in mana, ca azi e sarbatoare, la purtatul de haine 'bune' numai in ziua sfanta si la rugatul pentru sanatate si alte alea la icoana(sau, in functie de situatie linsul moastelor).&lt;br /&gt;Si ma intreb, revenind la spalat, de unde stia Dumnezeu de masina de spalat acum cateva mii de ani, de-a trecut repede pe lista dracoveniilor care spurca ziua sfanta?De ce ii plac taman oamenii aia care nu spala, nu se spala si nu ii lasa nici pe altii sa faca treburile astea?Mi s-a mai explicat ca e pacat sa fac treaba in zi de sarbatoare. Nu zau? Treaba mare am voie sa fac sau ma abtin pana a doua zi?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-3983715131345467413?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/feeds/3983715131345467413/comments/default' title='Postare comentarii'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/04/e-pacat-sa.html#comment-form' title='3 comentarii'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/3983715131345467413'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7494347601516837950/posts/default/3983715131345467413'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://parinti-rationali.blogspot.com/2010/04/e-pacat-sa.html' title='E pacat sa...'/><author><name>Dada</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13457864351246955707</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Y9jhReikKcY/S7iKFwj8NoI/AAAAAAAAAAs/2naBJCKDAgI/S220/avatare_cool_avatare%2B(30).gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7494347601516837950.post-8629715459710845371</id><published>2010-04-06T09:24:00.002+03:00</published><updated>2010-04-06T09:57:10.219+03:00</updated><title type='text'>Pasti, iepurasi si oua de ciocolata.</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Ca sa nu trebuiasca la vara sa ne injumatatim concediul pentru a merge s-o vizitam pe soacra-mea, am hotarat sa-i facem o vizita in minivacanta de pasti. Asa ca am pornit noi, 2 atei mari si 2 copii de atei,  la drum spre Ultracatolicul Land Bayern (Catolicstan) in vizita la ramura in forma de crucifix a familiei.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;In afara de soacra-mea, extrem de atinsa de noile scandaluri de pedofilie si care n-a dat pe la biserica, nu am vazut prea des restul familiei. Timp de trei zile au stat mai mult prin biserica, ba ca unul canta in cor, ba ca altul e "copil de mingi", ba e slujba, ba sunt obositi dupa slujba... &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Cumnata mea, nevasta de bancher si membra in diverse comitete si comisii crestine si cumnatul meu mandru membru al comitetului de sustinatori ai bisericii (nu stiu cand mai are timp sa treaca si pe la banca) au reusit sa-si spele extrem de bine copiii pe creier. Baietii, bietii adolescenti, canta in cor iar fata la 19 ani face excursii la manastire.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;In singura seara in care i-am prins pe toti, discutia a degenerat spre religie. La inceput am incercat sa-mi pastrez calmul, barbatul meu i-a explicat clar surorii lui faptul ca noi lasam copiii sa aleaga daca vor sau nu sa creada in ceva, si ca pot din partea noastra sa adere si la &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;em style="font-style: normal; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Hare Krishna daca vor.  Chestia asta i-a scos din sarite, nu stiu de ce... practic copiii mei puteau alege sa creada in ce vor, dar numai atata timp cat ar fi ales sa devina catolici. Tipic homo religiosus mi-am zis si am incercat sa le explic ca cei trei copiii ai lor nu au avut sansa sa aleaga nimic. S-au ofuscat si au plecat, un alt lucru tipic teistilor...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;em style="font-style: normal; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;em style="font-style: normal; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Duminica s-a intamplat singura faza amuzanta. Nepotii mei, au ascuns in gradina care desparte cele doua case diverse dulciuri si i-au invitat pe ai mei sa le caute. Patrick (14 ani) i-a spus Tamerei mele ca Iepurasul de Pasti a ascuns noaptea dulciurile. Tami l-a executat rapid, razand: "auzi mami asta inca mai crede in Iepurasul de Pasti, nici Harry nu mai crede in asa ceva, iar el are numai 4 ani". &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;em style="font-style: normal; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;em style="font-style: normal; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Cam asta a fost scurta mea vizita la rubedeniile evlavioase, unde iepurii depun oua de ciocolata iar biserica catolica este aproape la fel de pura si nepatata ca si inainte de scandaluri.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;em style="font-style: normal; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;em style="font-style: normal; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; "&gt;&lt;em style="font-style: normal; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7494347601516837950-8629715459710845371?l=parinti-rationali.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' ty
